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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-08-14 03:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #952 ]


⌈ Secret Post #952 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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102.
[The Closer]


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103.
[Paige Railstone]


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104.
[Margot at the Wedding]


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105.
[Nicholas Angel, Hot Fuzz]


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106.
[Nurse Jackie/Royal Pains]


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107.
[Dr Who]


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109.
[Chi's Sweet Home]


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110.
[Antiques Roadshow]


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121.
[Polyphonic Spree/Harry Potter]


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122.
[Geoff Johns]


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123.
[Dollhouse]


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124.
[Hana to Chou]


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125.
[Baccano!]


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127.
[Top Gear]


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128.
[DC Comics]


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131.
[Carnivale]


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132.
[TF2 Tegaki RP]


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133.
[A Very Potter Musical]


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135.
[XKCD]


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139.
[Star Wars Expanded Universe]


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140.
[HSM/A Song of Ice and Fire]


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141.
[Silent Hill 3]


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142.
[Bleach]


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144.
[John Hughes]


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145.
[Radiohead]


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146.
[poupeegirl]


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147.
[Mulan]


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148.
[Mad Men]


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149.
[Star Trek]


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150.
[Degrassi]


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151.
[Ellen Page/Anton Yelchin]


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152.
[Sailor Moon]


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154.
[The Blair Witch Project]


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155.
[Dr Who]


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156.
[scrubs/whose line is it anyway?]


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157.
[Piers Morgan / AGT]


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158.
[O.C.]


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[Chris Pine/Zachary Quinto]


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[BSG]


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[True Blood]


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170.
[Noel Fielding, The Mighty Boosh]


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173.
[Elite Beat Agents]


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174.
[Hana to Chou]


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175.
[Grey's Anatomy]


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179.
[HSM]


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180.
[HIMYM]


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181.
[LotR]



Notes:

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
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thene: Happy Ponyo looking up from the seabed (mitsuko)

[personal profile] thene 2009-08-14 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
There was Agent Zero in Wolverine - I've heard other issues raised with his characterisation but he doesn't seem to fit in any of the categories you mentioned. Good examples sure are thin on the ground, though. :/

[identity profile] littlekasumi.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
You should be happy with any kind of representation in the media? Even the negative ones? =\

[identity profile] dbzmerciter2005.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
She shouldn't, at least from my perspective. Asians in general tend to get shafted in terms of representation.

In fact my teacher told my class about how there were auditions for Asian characters for some movie and they wanted the stereotype: effeminate male who was nerdy, awkward, and had a perpetual accent, and when they didn't get that stereotype they re-released their audition papers stating outright that the stereotype is what they wanted.

That said, I think that she has every right to be angry at stereotypical/lesser representation.

[identity profile] fenm.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
In fairness. the HP characters name is Cho Chang, they kinda had to cast an Asian actress in that role.

[identity profile] dbzmerciter2005.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree, they kinda had to for her.

(Anonymous) 2009-08-14 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
though rowling's a little at fault for creating an asian character with a name that's both chinese and japanese. (because they're interchangeable cultures, right? :D)

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[identity profile] dbzmerciter2005.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
This is something that came up in my Asian American Studies class. Asian women are often highly sexualized, almost "dragon lady"-like, while men are effeminate, nerdy, and/or made out to be ruthless gangsters who know all forms of martial arts and are "exoticized."

You have every right to be angry as Asian representation in the media. Don't get me wrong, compared to early representations (where white actors put on yellow face, IE Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffanie's) it's a great leap, but there's a lot of work ahead of us to make Asian equals in the media.

If you don't feel comfortable with the representation of Asians/Asian Americans in pop culture, that's okay, because really you have every right to be.

[identity profile] heather.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah, you shouldn't be happy with just any representation even if it's stereotypical. And Asians are stereotyped so much.

I will say that Christina's definitely not the only POC/WOC on Grey's, though. I love Grey's because it has so many compared to many other shows, and they've all got depth. And Christina is so very very awesome.

Also, Sharon wasn't the only POC on BSG. Though BSG had its issues...

[identity profile] miss-mishi.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
How can you not like Athena, Cho, Christina, and Tosh? Christina and Tosh are pretty much the only sane members of their teams and Athena and Cho are just plain awesome. Not to mention there's Sun from lost who's pretty much HBIC (just fighting with Juliet for that role).

I mean I get what you're saying, but I don't think any of those women are fetishized. Everyone's sexualized on Grey's and BSG and Torchwood anyway. And Cho's a love interest so she's going to be sexualized a little bit...

I didn't really get the feeling that anyone of them were just there to fill a minority spot. I mean possibly Tosh or Athena, but it makes SENSE to have asian doctors as there are quite a lot of them, at least in new york, and Harry goes to an international school, there would be SOME asian kids.

As for asian men, Jin has had his bad moments, but so has everyone on Lost. I'd put him as one of the morally BETTER characters on the show. Same with Miles (also from lost).

[identity profile] alenxa.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for mentioning Lost. I imagine some people sensitive to stereotypes quit watching in disgust after the first few episodes, but it's one of the better examples I've seen of transforming stereotypes as well as transforming characters. I do hope Sun gets her HBIC status back and doesn't continue to be relegated to Ms. Expository Question, to be answered by the all-knowing men. It made me want to throw things.

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[identity profile] scribblingfemme.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
There aren't enough Asians in the media period.
sammywhatammy: (so much fail i have no words)

[personal profile] sammywhatammy 2009-08-14 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. After the epic fail that's the Avatar movie casting (and I'm not even a fan), part of me wanted to give up everything I dream of to become a casting director so I can give Asian actors a big leg up.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Some people seem to think that Asian or Asian-Americans don't count as POC, which I personally think is bullshit.

And the Asian = nerd association is a really old one, and I'd really like to see it die already.

[identity profile] agilebrit.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Then you need to start watching "The Mentalist." Because Kimball Cho is made of awesome.

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[identity profile] skelody.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
:((((

I loved Tosh; at no point did I feel like she was there just as a token minority.


...also re:Asian nerd stereotype... as an Asian and a geek, as long as the portrayal is realistic, I don't really care, but in this case it's a definite bias.

[identity profile] vorsatzpapier.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
As for Cristina - Grey's Anatomy does blind casting - all of the characters are cast without their race being specified. So they probably didn't cast Sandra Oh because she fit some Asian stereotype but because she was the best suited for the role.

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[identity profile] serenity-winner.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I have high hopes for John Cho in Flash Forward! :)

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[identity profile] miss-mercurial.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
For good Asian male characters, how about Harry Kim from Star Trek: Voyager? He was AWESOME! And sometimes, even the geeky ones are cool (Hiro and Ando are the only reasons I still watch the badly written mess that Heroes has turned into.) But yeah, I see what you are saying, and I do agree there need to be a lot more non-stereotypical Asian characters on TV. Part of the reason I love the character of Hardison on Leverage so much is that he is about the most non-stereotypical black character I have ever seen, and I love the show for it.

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[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Why should you be 'satisfied'?

You're not wrong.

[identity profile] la-petite-singe.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
As far as GA goes, I think I read that they used a color-blind audition process, so the fact that Sandra got it and she's Asian is just chance, they didn't write the role like that. But IDK. You're still probably right.

[identity profile] klmnumbers.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
First two that come to mind are Masuka from Dexter and BD Wong on Law and Order: SVU.

[identity profile] letmypidgeonsgo.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
I read this secret literally three times and I'm still sitting here going 'wait...what?'

The logic, I cannot findz it.

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I love when musicals are relevant to this sort of thing xD;

[identity profile] schomperilla.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
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I may have an example.

[identity profile] o6crepuscular9x.livejournal.com 2009-08-16 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
What about Kimball Cho from The Mentalist? He seems to be a fairly well rounded character and lacks the specifics that you mentioned. Then again I've seen all of four or so episodes so I could be wrong.