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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-08-15 03:42 pm

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"Would it be possible for you to link to secrets marked as spoilers (like the way you do for porn secrets), instead of just labelling them as spoilers right above the image? By the time you see the label, you've already seen the image and then it's too late. :("

[Poll #1444305]

Suggested:
- increase space between spoiler warning and secret
- move all spoilery secrets to the end of the post
- make spoiler warning text more noticeable (big and red?)

[identity profile] hooves.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I think linking them would be a good idea. :]

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[identity profile] hayato.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
It'd be nice to have them linked, really. I had Persona 4 spoiled for me by a secret, and all.

[identity profile] sawcat.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree, if the mods don't mind doing it. I've had several shows spoiled because of secrets

[identity profile] yume-odori.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I would be for linking. like done with some Torchwood spoilers :D

(Anonymous) 2009-08-15 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT TORCHWOOD? SERIOUSLY IT SUCKS

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[identity profile] hufflepuffia.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
it seems like it would be an awful lot of work for the mods if they had to link them...with so many fandoms and so many definitions of spoilers...

[personal profile] autumnrain 2009-08-15 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
But it says outside the cut 'secrets may contain spoilers'. That ought to be enough, right? It's worked until now.

[identity profile] hooves.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahh, that is a good point, actually.

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Totally Agree

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[identity profile] gethenian.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I really don't see the point of so much internet hand-holding -- especially when YOU might not even know it's a spoiler if it's not a canon you're familiar with. That's neither your fault nor your problem.

There's a spoiler warning before every single post. If people can't deal with that risk, they should maybe stop reading.

[identity profile] miss-yuka.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Uhm, only secrets that the secret poster labels as spoilers get a warning anyway so it's not really a question of knowing the canon.

[identity profile] miss-yuka.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe just increase the space between spoiler warning and secret?
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[identity profile] hey-feygele.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I like this idea.

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[identity profile] alocin42.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Linking would surely take about a gazillion years! People's definitions of spoilers varies so much across fandoms the whole thing would most likely descend into chaos...

[identity profile] penguinfaery.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Seconded. I remember comic fandom use to be "Comic comes out on Wednesday, stay off the internet on Thursday." and I've gotten chewed out for discussing the ending of animes that have been out for YEARS.
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[identity profile] penguinfaery.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I failed at voting, but I kinda feel like...if you're not wanting spoilers, this is a bad place to be.

[identity profile] cdaae.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

[identity profile] findmyantidrug.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah, we're already over-warned for spoilers. Linking them is kind of dumb.

I'd offer a truce of grouping all the already spoiler-marked secrets together at the bottom, regardless of fandom - but that sounds like it'd be way more work than it's worth, so. -shrug-

[identity profile] lottery-vee.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Not sure how much more work it'd be but I like this idea.

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[identity profile] quackingly.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Linking would be fine, I guess, but if the warning comes first normally I can just scroll past it pretty fast.

...Then again, I get spoilered so much that I've gotten to where I don't mind it much. XD
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[identity profile] mekkio.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly.

Plus, you have to reload the page after every time you read a linked secret. If there are many linked secrets like that, you are looking at some serious reloading time. And if you have a slow connection or LJ is slow that day for the umpteenth reason, you might end up skipping those secrets all together. Which in return would lead to those secrets being commented on less.

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[identity profile] kelleigh.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
You already warn that there might be spoilers and unsafe-for-work images...Most of us are big kids now, if you don't want to be spoiled, deal with it. I feel like EVERY secret could almost be considered a spoiler - "Well, what if I want to watch that show in the future? You're ruining it for me!" Half the secrets are going to end up being links, with so many different fandoms, it doesn't seem worth it.

[identity profile] atom-bunny.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

(Anonymous) 2009-08-15 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Linking would be annoying. I already have to click to open all the 'too bigs' and 'not a secrets' and whatnot at the bottom. Don't make me sprain my finger with all that pointless clicking!!

Also, how are you going to be able to tell when you're supposed to mark it as a spoiler? I bet people will be bitching if you use your own discretion and make the wrong choice a few times.

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[identity profile] mondaisenshi.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
The way I see it, the internet's full of spoilers. If you don't want the spoilers, stay offline 'til you're caught up.

But, there's no harm in linking, either. So long as you know what's behind the link. I, for one, only read secrets that I know the fandom. (Otherwise I won't understand why the secret, anyway.) So if there's House secrets with spoilers, as long as they SAY "Spoilers for HOUSE" then I'm fine with the system.

[identity profile] manonlechat.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Seems like an awful load of work... Also, how do you keep track of what and when something's a spoiler? Say character x dies in episode 203, is that info still a spoiler three weeks later?
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[identity profile] hey-feygele.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I kind of don't see the point, since spoiler reporting is only randomly done on the honor system. Even if some secrets were linked, there's still a chance that somebody is going to get spoiled anyway. It seems like extra hassle for little extra benefit.

[identity profile] furious.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
If someone posts a secret and labels it as a spoiler I don't see why it couldn't just be a link instead but I wouldn't expect the mods to monitor every secret and decide if it's a spoiler or not.

The current tag for spoilers is too unnoticeable so I occasionally wind up with spoilers to things because the "[SPOILER]" doesn't stand out enough. Maybe if it was larger and red or something. Or post the spoiler secrets out of order and at the bottom of the post instead of just mixed in with everything else. idk I figure those would probably be more work than just posting a link.

[identity profile] darkblysse.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I love that idea for making the [SPOILER] bigger/redder/something...er.

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[identity profile] antiva.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Where's the line of what's a spoiler and what isn't? I think you might end up having to link over half the stuff, which would be... really pointless.

The way I see it, there's already a warning that the post may have spoilers, so it's at own viewing risk.

[identity profile] post-position.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I think people should know that they're gonna get spoilers at F!S. I don't see the need to cater. You'll have to do that for almost all of the secrets then.

(Anonymous) 2009-08-15 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the warnings you already post are sufficient. Going to further lengths on your end is unnecessary.

[identity profile] ink-tree.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
If they're linked, I won't bother clicking on them. :s

(Anonymous) 2009-08-15 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Ditto.

[identity profile] zanzou-chan.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
If a person is going through secrets so fast that they see the secret before/at the same time as the spoiler, that's their fault. I've been spoiled before, and it's just a consequence of being on the internet in public forums.

The text works absolutely fine. Doing more is pandering, especially because lots of people don't mark secrets as spoilers at all.

[identity profile] bamf-girl.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
This! Perfect sum up!

[identity profile] rampant-chaos8.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe this is because I'm really not in any active fandoms anymore and have no invested interest in this... but, eh, either way, I don't really care.

[identity profile] miss-jaffacake.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd say spaces, 'cos linking would be putting even more extra work on you.

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