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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-06-22 03:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #6378 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6378 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-06-23 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
His medical issues *might* become a mitigating factor once he's
1) stopped harming people
2) committed to not harming people in the future
3) understood that what he did was wrong and it is HIS job to control his actions

I feel like everyone skipped over the 3-5 years where he stops being a Nazi and becomes the worlds biggest anti-Nazi and starts like 3 charities dedicated to stopping anti-Semitism and another 2 for helping people get out of extremist groups.

It's like everyone is playing for crowds in that possible (but unlikely) future. And they'd rather have "always" had the correct final opinion. Like they're afraid of getting their tweets read out in some hypothetical future and being accused of ableism.

But like, fuck off with that shit. I live in the moment and *right now* this mother fucker is doing harm. We can talk about redemption *after*

(Anonymous) 2024-06-23 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I can agree with this. I have never liked Kanye. I've always thought he seemed like a narcissistic, male-chauvinist asshole, even before all the rest of it went down. But I don't necessarily see him as utterly irredeemable. There is a conceivable (albeit unlikely) future in which he's committed heavily to change, and done the stuff you discuss in your comment, where I could think, like, "Kanye was a pretty horrible person for a long time, but he really committed to turning it around and doing good in the world, and I really respect that. Good for him."

(Anonymous) 2024-06-23 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
His Taylor Swift interruption was a beautiful example of how the left will applaud men of color for being male chauvinist assholes as long as the women they're public about showing it towards are white.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-23 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
THIS. 100%. Hit the nail on the head.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-23 03:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm curious where the left applauded this. I must have missed that in the midst of all the memes that sprung up around it.

+1

(Anonymous) 2024-06-23 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
as far as i can recall, most people thought he was an asshole for doing that but they also thought it was funny enough to meme? i don't remember anyone celebrating it as a win for minorities. if anyone celebrated, it was a very small number of people.

i think that moment was the final nail in the coffin of kanye west's career. it also seemed to solidify in his mind that acting like an asshole and doing stupid shit gets people to pay attention to him for short periods of time.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-23 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
i thought TSwift was the Queen of the Left???

so which is it, Trumper? make up your worm-riddled mind.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-24 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
Not everyone with grievances about the left is a Trump supporter. I'm a leftist who calls out my own, which is something no Trump supporter would ever do.

Kanye's interruption was a long time ago, when Taylor's most famous song was You Belong With Me, which the left hated for being slut-shamey. She was a pick-me female misogynist, and white, making her double okay to be the target of misogyny herself. Now the left hates her for her private jet and not being left enough. She's been around long enough that there was probably a time in between when they didn't hate her, but she's never been their Queen.

(Anonymous) 2024-06-23 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
+millions

(Anonymous) 2024-06-23 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
Ayart

I'm kind of furious that people are debating his level of culpability in his own actions. Like, I don't care if he faked his Bipolar diagnosis in a decades long plot to be anti-Semitic or if he's been posesed by an actual demon and he's screaming on the inside. The steps we should all be taking are the same: condemn the harmful behavior, refuse to support him/give him a platform from which to hurt people until he stops the harmful behavior, support victims of the harmful behavior.

Worrying about what he punishment should be, or whatever is such a complete waste of time.