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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-07-28 03:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #6414 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6414 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-07-29 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Ok but the vast majority of people are cis so that's therefore the presumption.

On the other hand, gay/ace or bi can be hinted at in the text of the show, if its' not outright spoken. That's why some people will take a hint/grasp that someone may be another sexuality.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-29 07:52 am (UTC)(link)
Uh huh and till recently it was commonly believed that the vast majority of people were straight, and that is in fact logic that is still believed and used by homophobes re: slash and why it shouldn’t be written or why canon media shouldn’t have gay characters. You’re doing the same thing but with trans. Granted, the vast majority of trans people haven’t *transitioned* because it’s the transitioning that’s “rare,” not the transness. So like, it’s more realistic for a character who is canonically a man to be potentially trans as in trans woman whose egg hasn’t cracked than a trans man who has already transitioned. Yet still, it’s normal fan practice to write slash in settings where realistically there would be rampant homophobia but the writers just ignore that to focus on the ship, so again why do we care about being oh so realistic for trans headcanons but not gay ones.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-29 08:15 am (UTC)(link)
No that's comparing apples and oranges. There's being attracted to more than one or the different sex than depicted, which can actually be very true, just like a lot of bi people still have a preference for one sex over the other and date more in that direction, and then there's having an entirely different gender identity than depicted without even a single hint in that direction. So no, it's not the same.
Especially since the vast majority of trans headcanons are actually for characters who are already at least socially transitioned (like some dude being actually a trans man or a woman being a trans woman), in which case it becomes "entirely different body than depicted in canon" which, again, makes it a very shaky headcanon at best. So no, almost no characters can be argued to be anything other than cis if not implied otherwise in canon.

(Also, if you have no intention or wish to transition you ain't trans, sorry not sorry.)

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(Anonymous) 2024-07-29 10:57 am (UTC)(link)

Real people =/= fictional people. 99% of real people can be secretly trans but their "egg hasn't cracked yet", because real people are complex.

Fictional characters aren't complex unless they are written to be so. If a character appears cis, acts cis, if the story makes no indication that they are anything but cis - then that character is cis, whether or not its ever explicitly stated.

That doesn't mean that people can't headcanon different things - I have my own trans headcanons. But if I used those in fic, I would tag them. The same way I would tag asexuality or slash.

You're comparison between writing slash and trans headcanons hinges on your pretence that slash isn't tagged, when it very much is.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-29 12:01 pm (UTC)(link)

Being trans is rare, though -- and for that matter, so is being gay. The percentages are around 1% and 3%, respectively. Being bi is less rare, but it's still a relatively small cohort of the population at 10%.

The vast majority of people are cis and/or straight. It's not bigotry driving that perception; it's reality.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-29 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Those are very outdated stats for both groups lmao also it varies by generation because surprise younger people have grown up more surrounded by the concept that not being cishet is ok and are more likely to be aware of their true identities.

(Anonymous) 2024-07-29 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Nice try but no. The outdated statistics for trans people were somewhere around 0,3%, 1% is already pretty generous. And it also varies depending on the definition, really.