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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-08-05 05:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #6422 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6422 ⌋

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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2024-08-05 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I just thought she should have been honest with her jerk fiancee instead of sneaking around w/Jack behind his back.
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[personal profile] mishey22 2024-08-05 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, he was pretty abusive, so I can see that not working out for her

(Anonymous) 2024-08-06 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, he was abusive - which was why she thought it'd be a great idea to fuck with him by having another man draw her naked and then tacking a "HAHA LOOK WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING" note onto the drawing.

Because that's the thing, right? She wasn't really sneaking around behind Cal's back; she was rubbing his fuckin' nose in it. Sure, she was into Jack, but she was also using him to lash out at her fiance, and the fact that she was doing that led directly to him being framed for a crime and arrested.

Yeah, she was 17, and young, and dumb, and trapped by certain social conditions. But that doesn't mean she gets a pass on being a jerk.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-06 08:44 am (UTC)(link)
You really have a lot of sympathy for the abusive boyfriend. You okay?

(Anonymous) 2024-08-06 01:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Either you think Jack was an abusive boyfriend or your reading comprehension is shit.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-06 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt but that argument up there really does seem like you are bothered by Cal's hurt feelings more than anything else.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-07 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
DA, but seriously, how? They've said multiple times that their issue is that Rose deliberately provoked the evil, abusive fiance in a way that aimed said abusive fiance at a third party, who died because of it. In what way does that say "poor evil fiance" to you, instead of "Spiting the rich, abusive asshole is understandable, but doing so in a way that aimed him at someone with even less social standing than you was a Bad Decision?"

I mean, none of them are real people, so in the long run it doesn't matter. But Rose's girl power moment, which was obviously written by a man, directly resulted in Jack dying unrealistically slowly of hypothermia. It was a dumb decision. The smart decision would have been to just take the damn necklace and mail the drawing to fucknuts from a hotel in NYC once they weren't all trapped on a boat.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-06 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
The context of the time period and him being an abusive twat is a pretty big part of the reason why she doesn’t do this??

(Anonymous) 2024-08-06 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
So, in the context of the time period and him being an abusive twat, does it make sense for her to deliberately rub said twat's nose in her affair by asking her lover to draw her naked, and then leaving the drawing for him to find, along with a taunting note?

(Anonymous) 2024-08-06 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt but I gotta say that taking the abusive rich asshole's side is not the take I was expecting in this thread.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-06 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

"Cal sucks" and "that was a really stupid thing for Rose to do" are not mutually exclusive positions.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-06 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, fuck Cal. All he cared about was social status and didn't see Rose as a person. Humiliating him one time is nothing compared to the abuse he'd already inflicted, not to mention the years he would have ruined had she stayed with him. He got off light.

And I beg to differ. That wasn't stupid. It was goddamn genius and hilarious.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-06 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

First, we're in a thread in which people have said that she had to sneak around behind Cal's back because he was an abuser. Part of the point of bringing up the drawing is to say that no, that doesn't make sense, because she didn't sneak around; she was actually quite brazen about it.

Second, you're focusing on the completely wrong thing. This isn't about whether assholes should be humiliated or not. It's whether this specific action, given its potential and actual consequences, was stupid. That "genius and hilarious" stunt involved putting another guy in the middle, and getting that guy arrested. That ain't great!

(Anonymous) 2024-08-06 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
it's weird that you think Rose is some mastermind who's responsible for the actions of a thirty-year-old man and that Jack has no agency, but you do you I guess

(Anonymous) 2024-08-06 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup! Absolutely fantastic and the least of what he deserved tbh given what he was already putting Rose through. But you can be weird and cape for a fucking abusive twat because I guess the abused woman is the Real Bad Guy here.