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⌈ Secret Post #6503 ⌋

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Comments

[philstar22]

Wow. Okay. I have empathy for him, but I also have empathy for Anya. Xander dumped her and just walked away. She had to handle everything from there. You are the one who is acting like Xander is the only person there, the only one who experienced any trauma. What happened to him doesn't change what he did to Anya. And then, many episodes later after he's had plenty of time to heal, he has the gaul to get angry at Anya, who he broke up with and then left to handle everything, for sleeping with Spike.

AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Xander was raped. Anya was not. What is wrong with you?

Re: AYRT

[philstar22]

I don't really think giving him false memories is the same as rape. I just don't. Sorry.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, my god. They weren't false memories. It was someone magically forcing Xander to experience a surround sound and technicolor nightmare future that ended with him murdering someone he loved against his will. The fact you don't understand the sheer violation of that, the lack of consent involved, is telling.

You lack basic compassion, and I hope you are never in a position to decide if someone is ever assaulted, sexually or in any other way irl.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Are you like, okay.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Not even a little. When it comes to fighting against victim-blaming, I will always speak up. ALWAYS.

They (I don't even want to type their name) won't even admit Xander was victimized and forced to experience something he DID. NOT. WANT. Even if you call what happened 'false memories,' Xander did not consent. It was a violation, period.

It's shocking how hate for a character will allow people to deny a terrible thing happened to that character. I used to think people who claimed the hate for Xander was unhinged were overstating the usual goings-on in many fandoms, but to see someone downplay and outright deny the violation Xander went through because they hate him... Yeah, those claims were correct.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Excellent bait.

+1 Trolling.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

OP

Nice try. I've been here too long not to recognize when people here declare someone is trolling to invalidate the views they disagree with and can't reasonably argue against. It's lazy and pathetic. Do better.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

You could just say "nuh-uh" and use less letters to achieve the same response you just typed.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Cool. Now take your crusade to the streets and real-life organizations that fight actual human trafficking and sexual abuse of non-fictional beings.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Absolutely not.

I have a 'voice,' and I will use that voice when and how I want.

Still, I do thank you for admitting Xander was victimized.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

You are clearly triggered by this episode, but you are way overreacting. Also, you should look up empathy because I am not sure you know what it means. you are clearly lacking it for a very real person you are talking to and insulting.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

OP

If they had just been honest from the start and admitted they didn't care that Xander was victimized, I still would have called them out, but I would have at least respected them for being upfront about their bias and let it go as a difference of opinions and morals. Instead, they chose to gaslight and victim-blame someone whose mind and body were overpowered by another person's will and forced to endure mental torture, and then denied it was even "that bad."

Disgusting.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

You're attacking a real human for having an opinion about a fictional character that doesn't align with yours.

You understand that, don't you?

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

I called out someone who couldn't admit Xander was victimized and then compared being mind-raped to being left at the alter. All because they hate the character who was indisputably the victim so much, they more or less said that Xander should have walked it off and focused on comforting the person who wasn't raped. It was incredibly insulting and borderline inhuman.

And I will call it out every single time. Count on it.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

"I personally insulted and attacked a real person over an imaginary character and I feel good about that. Imaginary characters are way more important than real people."

I hope you go away.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Someone denying abuse and victimization happened is what's insulting.

And I will not be bullied into shutting up and going away.

Not now, not ever.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

It's a shame you can't be this passionate about defending victims in real life. What's the problem? Too much of a burden for ya? Can't feel like a hero? So you just have to bully people who have differing opinions from you on fictional characters? And then deny that's exactly what you're doing?

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

I hope this other anon didn't get to you. From all that I have seen on this site and the replies in this thread, you are not a bad person and this other anon is over the line.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

OP

I hope I did get to them because I'm sick of people not recognizing or caring when someone has been abused or victimized. If they can't tell when a fictional character went through something traumatic because they hate them, then it's very likely they can't when it happens to a real person they also have no respect or care for.

And victim-blaming 100% makes them a bad person. And make no mistake, Xander was victimized no matter what they or anyone else claimed.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

That sounds like a lot of all-or-nothing thinking on your part.

I know folks with zero sympathy for some of my favorite characters who have been through some awful shit. Sure, it's annoying, but I do not think they are bad people. It's just that something about my favorite characters rubs them the wrong way.

Still, I take cues from their actions in real life. I don't make premature judgments based off of disgust they expressed over a fictional character.

philstar probably has more empathy in her right pinky than some do in their entire being. I've read her stories here, how she fights for immigrants, and how she rescued a cat that was previously abused. But if you were in charge, then none of that would matter. I highly recommend taking a longer time with your assessment of who she is. Or better yet, just let it go.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

I have made my position clear: I will speak up whenever I see victim-blaming and continue speaking for as long as necessary. I will not be bullied into shutting up.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Insaaaaanity, it has its grips in you good and solid

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

You're the one bullying, throwing judgments at real life people because they disagree with you on a fictional character. The sooner you accept this, the better off we'll all be.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

He was not.