[ SECRET POST #6549 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6549 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

if I recall correctly from my time in SW fandom many moons ago, yes, the EU was considered a level of canon for a very long time. Top level canon all the time, the movies, then there were tiers below that - the radio dramas, the EU books, and then the cartoons. I think? I don't remember where EU and radio dramas actually were in rank, but they all ranked ahead of cartoons and comic books.

So, you would in fact be incorrect to claim the EU was never any level of canon at any point. But anyone claiming it was at the same level as the movies is also wrong. I would not be the slighest bit surprised if there was now infighting over whether new movies supersede rank or if the EU was unfairly dis-ranked from canon entirely. If I had any investment in the fandom I probably would be mad that someone somewhere decreed canon un-canon.

[(Anonymous)]

Lucas was always clear that it wasn't canon. And he owned it until he sold it. he licensed it to others but retained ownership.

[(Anonymous)]

I was into some of the comics and there were definitely "levels" of canon. EU was pretty high up there, to the point that if you were going against EU canon but using an EU character it was best to make an author's note.

[(Anonymous)]

There were levels in the sense that some of it stayed consistent with the movies and with each other. But Lucas always said the movies were the only canon.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, absolutely. But the secret maker is not talking about Lucas, they're talking about fandom interactions.

[(Anonymous)]

I can totally understand why you feel that way.

But also: The EU was second only to the movies and for a lot of fans, it was second only to the OT. It was like an adjacent canon at first and then kinda grew from there. So I can also totally understand why EU fans are still bitching about what happened.

The EU was rich with awesome characters, world building, and fantastic stories. If there were going to be more movies, it made sense to draw from the EU. Instead we got the sequel trilogy which not only wasn’t as good but effectively shit all over the EU’s legacy and fandom. There was no reason to handle it the way they did.

[philstar22]

I feel like they'd have to have done the sequels at least 10 years earlier if they were going to make them consistent with the AU. The OT actors were simply too old to pull off what their characters do in the EU.

[(Anonymous)]

The OT characters didn’t need to be in the movies though. And Disney didn’t need to kill the EU. From a business perspective, it was a stupid move. They’re churning out all this live action content now that’s hemorrhaging money and they’ve over saturated the market. Their core fan base has dwindled because Disney chose not to capitalize on an already profitable commodity.

[(Anonymous)]

I know, I know you're talking about Expanded Universe, but reading this secret, my head still kept trying to wonder what was up with the European Union.

I read a few of the novels way back and thought they were pretty cool extensions (and I also liked the TV movies - Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure and Ewoks: The Battle for Endor, whatever I was young). But even then, 80s and early 90s, the way that some people who considered themselves real fans behaved was alarming.

I decided I was mostly done with any new Star Wars stuff after I was disappointed by the Prequel Trilogy (I kept thinking it would get better or redeem itself in the end and it didn't, not for me). Given some of the developments in last ten years in both the canon and some parts of the fandom, I am okay with that decision.

So, in my head, the Original Trilogy, the TV movies (not the holiday one), and the first Thrawn Trilogy are my canon; the Prequel Trilogy is a sensationalized and distorted version of what actually happened, a based-on-true-events version, if you will; and everything after that Thrawn Trilogy is different timelines that I'm not really concerned about (though maybe Grogu, he's very cute, from the clips I've seen).

Wow, I guess I have a lot of feelings about this. Anyway, I get you.

[philstar22]

The fandom is so divided. Generally everyone loves the OT (though there are some that dislike ROTJ). But beyond that, it is prequel fans vs. sequel fans vs. EU fans vs. OT-only fans. Say you like all of them and people seem horrified.