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[Kenneth Branagh's Poirot movieverse]

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[Kenneth Branagh's Poirot movieverse]

I've only seen the first Branagh Poirot movie and it didn't make much of an impression. But I don't care for Agatha Christie's writing. IMO, the adaptations make her stories tolerable, but I've tried to read her novels and they just aren't my cup of tea.

I don’t decide that they hate Agatha Christie’s writing, but I think it’s a pretty safe bet that they don’t like the same things about Poirot that I do (things that I consider core to his character).

I love Branagh as an actor, but his movies are very hit or miss for me. On the one hand, Cinderella, Thor, and Much Ado About Nothing. On the other hand, these movies, Jack Ryan, and Frankenstein.

Heh kinda makes me wonder if I’d like the movies. I can’t stand Christie’s writing despite having a massive amount of respect for her.

Do you know what you dislike so much about her writing?

(I powered through a shelf of her mysteries, but that was back in middle school and I don’t remember anything about the prose)

I could not with his accent.

I am neutral with her writing and I hated Orient Expres movie. It was just so fucking bad

That could be true. It could also be true that they like them separately as their own things for different reasons.

That's how I felt about the Branagh films I saw. I think I'm far less likely to revisit them than I am the 70s/80s films or the Suchet Poirot series, but it was interesting to see how Branagh would tweak them.

As for Christie's writing, I'm generally fine with it although from time to time the values dissonance (especially about Jewish folks or lesbians) kind of smacks you in the face.

I don't think I recall any lesbians in the books. There were a couple of times when I thought she was going in that direction, but pulled it away at the last minute with some good old fashions wholesome cousin marriage.

The one that sticks in my head was Taken at the Flood where the woman was supposed to marry man A, but thought because he didn't go to war he was too much of a pussy and instead fell for the violent psychopath. Then at the end when Christies pulling one of her classic misdirects to make everyone think the pussyman was the killer and he tries to strangle the woman, she suddenly finds that actually she IS into him.

I mean on the one hand some great character writing and shows how truly fucked in the head that woman is... on the other hand, I'm not totally convinced she wasn't just writing it as a happy ending and he finding she really loved her soulmate the whole time...

I love christies works, and that includes all the values of the era she reflects... but there's some stuff that hits my current year brain and makes me laugh. Like all the ejaculating Hastings does.

She doesn't come right out and say it, but there are lesbian-coded characters in some stories and they're usually a little sus (or worse, such as in the novel Nemesis).

I dunno, I really don't. I'm not sure life long protestant who was born in the Victorian era was trying to sneak gay characters into her books. I'm not saying you're definitely wrong, I just don't buy it myself.

I've never read any of her books but, as a horror fan, I had such a great time watching A Haunting in Venice. It was the perfect Halloween (the holiday, not the franchise) movie.

I liked that one too

I am, quite literally, seething.

Okay? I have no idea what you want me to do about that.

Could you stop?

Fucking stop what? You’re the one being super angry that someone else likes something you don’t. Grow up.

Liking the movie? and not reading the books? Just a general stop to all of it, please

Come on. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And no, someone's personal taste when it comes to fictional media isn't "wrong." It is their personal taste. Everyone gets to like and dislike what they want. Someone liking something you hate in no way hurts or affects you.

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thewakokid - 2025-03-08 06:45 (UTC) - Expand

thewakokid - 2025-03-08 06:47 (UTC) - Expand

I liked A Haunting in Venice, which is the only one I've seen, and I've yet to read any of Christie's writing, so you could be right?

If no-one on earth hates these movies, it means I have died.

But I gotta say I think you're being a touch unfair here.

YES, they're an absolute fucking butchery of the character. Yes, what they did to Ariadne Oliver (Christies psudo self insert) is FUCKING unforgivable. Yes, the tragic backstory to the moustaches is absurd. and I could go on and on.

But at the end of the day they are simply an adaptation. It seems absurd to me that someone could read the original books, and come away feeling that the movies did them justice, but then people don't need to like the moves as much as the books to still like the movies. It's always possible to see the movies as their own thing.

Oh, there are plenty of adaptations that are, as adaptations, lousy, but make good movies.

The Shining is a pretty standout example of *that*.

Yeah, that is true. And there's a lot to recommend the first film as a movie in itself... After that, I can't say I see it. Could be I'm too biased tho.