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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-06-14 04:03 pm

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(Anonymous) 2025-06-14 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Where did you get this information about the shooter? I haven't been following this as it unfolds.

(Anonymous) 2025-06-14 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Any up to date article should have it.

(Anonymous) 2025-06-14 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I just read an NPR article updated an hour ago, and it doesn't say anything about him being a right-wing evangelist...

(Anonymous) 2025-06-14 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
DA
Try watching the press conference then.

(Anonymous) 2025-06-14 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Link?

(Anonymous) 2025-06-14 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
You’ll have to Google because the Dreamwidth captcha doesn’t work and it’s requiring a captcha to post links for me. But the sheriff (or maybe he was the spokesperson for the state troopers, I’m honestly not sure) gave a press conference earlier today and disclosed all of that.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2025-06-14 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm seeing it, but it's coming from the lefty talking heads saying it's fact. It might still be, but they're all coming out with it real quickly for me to take it as gospel. You know how lefty political operators work: Get the story you WANT to be true out and known good and early, all the rank and file will accept it as irrefutable fact, and then if they're wrong just memory hole it. There are STILL people out there who think Kyle Rittenhouse murdered 3 innocent black men, and that the Covington kid was the aggressor.

To be fair I DO see this attempted on the right too, but the media slant doesn't let the right get away with quite so much.

Either way the truth won't really matter. The left already believe he was a maga commando operating on direct orders from the orange Fuhrer and NOTHING will change that. They still believe the last political assassination attempt was a trump false flag ffs. And the right are already taking this "He worked with Tim Waltz" thing as solid irrefutable evidence of his far lefty status.

although, and this is likely my own personal Bias here, while he might not be a dyed in the wool lefty, I have a hard time believing a far right trump worshiping psycho would be willing... or permitted for that matter... to work that closely to a tampon Tim project. There's an image here of a "the mad dog of maga" that just doesn't gel with the Waltz thing. Frankly, I think this paints him more as one of my guys in the centre who went loopy rather than an ideologue of either extreme. But that 1. Makes my side look bad so we can all ignore it if we want, 2. is no use to the maga or the lefty trying to use him as an example of the other side being bad, and 3. Not a particularly sexy story for the news "Fence sitting centrist takes decisive action for once". News, sure just not interesting.

(Anonymous) 2025-06-14 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
He was on a fucking business development committee. He wasn't working closely with Walz. Walz wasn't even the person who appointed him first. I know you have oppositional defiance disorder or something, but could you stick to fandom and not two dead people to get your trolling jollies off?
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2025-06-14 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
See, this is what I mean: Does anyone think this dude is reachable with ANY fact that doesn't back up his righteous fury and that the people who didn't vote in line with his priorities are still allowed to walk around like real human beings?

Does anyone think in 3 months time when all the news is out, all the facts are known to the public that there is a state of reality for this kinda person that isn't either "MAGA ARE MURDERERS! REMEMBER WHATS-HER-NAME BACK IN JUNE!" or "MAGA ARE MURDERERS! *Vague mumbling about words being violence and trans genocide*"

Can ANYONE envision a 3rd state for this chap?

(Anonymous) 2025-06-14 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Yes? All they did was point out a piece of information. I don't see anything in that comment insisting he was maga, only that the shooter being on a committee doesn't make him not maga, in reference to your point here: "I have a hard time believing a far right trump worshiping psycho would be willing... or permitted for that matter... to work that closely to a tampon Tim project"

The person not being neutral here or able to neutrally gauge information really looks like it's you here. I'm not trying to insult you, honestly, but maybe step back and evaluate for real, whether you're reacting to this whole thing emotionally regarding things you expect to be hearing from the types of people you assume are here, as opposed to things people are actually saying.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2025-06-14 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Go and speak to a maga. A real maga I mean. Bought the Hat, insists trump will release the epstein list any day now, dyed in the wool maga person. Just the one. I'm sure if you unblock one for a few mins you will see what I mean. And then offer them the chance to work on a Business Development committee proposed by Tim Walz. Give them a couple of mins to stop laughing, and then report back. That would be the default maga, btw. Not the maga super soldier we're pretending this guy is. The "Yes mr president I will kill your enemies for you, I am your number one guy"

The rest of this is a little... for want of a better word... gaslighty "I'm not insulting you, you're just being emotional about the perfectly neutral tone of the person you responded to!"

I commend the effort, I really do, it's a classic and beautifully executed, but I don't really buy it.

(Anonymous) 2025-06-14 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
??? MAGA politicians work under Democratic governors all the time. And again, this is not someone working closely with Walz. It is someone on a business development committee. They likely never saw each other and Walz probably couldn't tell you his name. Do you think these committees are important to people outside of their immediate community?

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(Anonymous) 2025-06-14 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
DA - they're angry because you, not even an American, come in talking about our political system and news and shit like you have insider information and you always seem to be bashing "the left" and sounding like an instigator or a troll.

I don't even know why you're so obsessed with our politics when you are so misinformed most of the time.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2025-06-14 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
A solid attempt. Deserves a reply bare minimum.

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(Anonymous) 2025-06-14 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
https://www.wired.com/story/shooting-minnesota-melissa-hortman-vance-boelter/

This is why I hate you. You're so far up Trump's ass, this guy could say, "I want all Democrats dead" and you'd excuse it. Fuck off and shove your head into your own ass so maybe you can finally huff something that isn't Trump's farts.

(Anonymous) 2025-06-14 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
You know how lefty political operators work: Get the story you WANT to be true out and known good and early, all the rank and file will accept it as irrefutable fact, and then if they're wrong just memory hole it.

You realize that is how most (shitty) American media works, right? It's not a right vs left thing. Both sides pull this sensationalist "gotta get the scoop and get the right story to feed to the crowds" nonsense. If you honestly truly thing it's a leftist political thing then you might be too far gone to be sane.

(Anonymous) 2025-06-14 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Like, Fox News is already running with the 'HE WAS APPOINTED BY WALZZZ!!!!!!"
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2025-06-14 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
You got your quote, and stopped reading the comment there, and I'm supposed to care what you think about my mental state? Tell me, is there ANYONE you think of a "pro-trump" who you think of as sane, moral, and normal?

I just need to know what you are capable of cheering at to see how much your boos should mean.

ayrt

(Anonymous) 2025-06-14 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
What the fuck are you on about? I wasn't talking about Trump supporters, I was talking about the shitty American media places that jump to conclusions to feed the masses and get the ratings.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2025-06-14 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I appear to have confused you. Probably me, let me clarify

"You got your quote from me and stopped reading..." A reference to the fact that the next line AFTER the one you quoted goes on to say exactly what you said. That the right do it too. I added my rebuttal there: They tend to get away with much less by nature of being right wing.

"I don't really care how you assess my mental state..." because I think you see me as part of the political side that you regard as ALL insane. But I admit I might be being overly combative. It's that kind of thread. I invite you to tell me if I'm wrong and tell me if there ARE trump people who's mental faculties you DO respect.

(Anonymous) 2025-06-14 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
That brown stain on your mouth isn't chocolate no matter how delicious you insist it tastes.

(Anonymous) 2025-06-14 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
He had a hit list of over 70 people. All democrats, abortion providers, and pro abortion people.

(Anonymous) 2025-06-14 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
People have found videos of him in the Congo. Nevermind his manifesto.

But here.

https://www.wired.com/story/shooting-minnesota-melissa-hortman-vance-boelter/

"In another sermon in Matadi that year, Boelter railed against the LGBTQ community. “There's people, especially in America, they don't know what sex they are. They don't know their sexual orientation. They're confused,” he said. “The enemy has gotten so far into their mind and their soul.”"

Totally left wing!

(Anonymous) 2025-06-15 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Ah. So a religious nutcase.

(Anonymous) 2025-06-15 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yup. He probably thinks his manifesto was his divine calling lmao