[ SECRET POST #1028 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1028 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 092 secrets from Secret Submission Post #147.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 2 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

120. http://i33.tinypic.com/2bpmhl.jpg

[seiberwing.livejournal.com]

Fandom can be stupidly hypocritical when it comes to these things. I think it's a backlash against expected norms.

[sitakhet.livejournal.com]

All women are "real women," whether you're a girly princess or the toughest tomboy. (: Pink frills pride!

[oflittlebrain.livejournal.com]

ummmm OP I really really love you. <3 I didn't deal with the same shit you did (in fact I kind of wanted to be a boy) but I'll agree that fandom tends to lash out at "girly-girls" or decide that female characters who act feminine are automatically "weak". And that's not cool. And uh, definitely not feminist.

[trinity-destler.livejournal.com]

Because pink is a tool of the patriarchy, donchaknow.

[justaminuet.livejournal.com]

Seriously, there's nothing wrong with the color pink, and all "girly" things. If being a girly girl is who you are and makes you happy, then rock on with your girly self.

There is no set definition of what makes you a proper or strong woman. And people who forget that, and think that instead of fitting into the "wears dresses everyday, and makes sure dinner is done for hubby when he gets home," ideal, women now must fit into, "wears pants every day, and thinks make-up and frills are the devil's play things," have pretty much missed the point of feminism entirely.

[blossommorphine.livejournal.com]

Even though I never indulged in pink and so-called 'girl' stuff (having three brothers who like to break anything not boy-oriented tends to teach you not to grow attached to these things for long), I also don't see anything wrong with these things. So what if you like to dress up, wear make-up, and love Disney princessess? Just as there is nothing wrong with being a tomboy, there is nothing wrong with being a girly-girl.

I think it leads back to the assumption that a woman should want to be 'masculine' to be taken seriously, because anything deemed 'feminine' (in whatever society they are in, since each culture has their own ideas of what they consider 'feminine') is 'childish' and not to be taken as a equal. :|

[sarajayechan.livejournal.com]

Girly pink things are awesome, you should never let anyone make you feel ashamed or like you don't deserved to be taken seriously for liking them!

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's really hypocritical that if a guy is "girly" he's sensitive and sweet, but if a girl is "girly" she's shallow. It's stupid, and you should be able to like what you want to like, whether you a be a tomboy, a girly girl, or neither (in other words, a nerd (like me)). Feminism is about women and men being equal, not adhering to stereotypes. whether they be the ones set out for your gender or not.

[hyena-frog.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry, I'm sure your mom's a nice person, but thinking LITTLE GIRLS are snobbish and shallow for experimenting with make-up? WHAT. Even if she meant teenagers and adults. Just. What.

[jlh.livejournal.com]

Yeah, probably my least favorite part of fandom is this unthinking, poorly applied second-wave feminist crap that implies that being a real feminist is liking boy things in the ways that boys do. It's like, okay disgruntled fangirl, I get that the fanboys are obnoxious, and that annoying people were mad that you didn't act like a girly-girl. But that doesn't make it anti-feminist to like shoujo manga or Grey's Anatomy, nor does it make the people who do like those things the mean girls that tormented you in high school.

Feminism is about people being able to like what they like. Defining yourself against strict gender roles is as restrictive as defining yourself within them.

[mercystars.livejournal.com]

There's never any shame in loving what you love. If you've got something to say, SAY IT, and don't worry about what anybody thinks about you or your opinions!

[math-camel.livejournal.com]

My own childhood was roller coaster between supper girley and tom-boy. One year I wore only overalls and think the makeup kits marketed to kids are stupid. The next I wear only skirts (funny story, I had to buy a pair of jeans at a thrift shop so I could go on a trail ride. I still wish they would have let me ride side saddle), and now I wear jeans everyday and makeup anytime I intend to leave the house. I prefer to just do what makes me feel comfortable, it's so much easier. Luckily I had a family who put up with my constant waffling, and a good thrift shop so I could redo my wardrobe every few years.

And THANK YOU to the posters above re: feminism. It's supposed to be about having the ability to choose, and if someone WANTS to get married, take her husband's name, and stay home to bake cookies and raise children, that's her CHOICE. (OMG, the rage makes me capslock) Just like it's her choice to go to work, or wear pants, or own a blue car, it's all the same; or at least it should be. I think the problem is a lot of the self proclaimed feminists I've met are too quick to tell women what they should do to be equal, and not to do what makes them happy because they already are equal. (This is also why I don't like many of the self proclaimed feminists I know...)

[heyheyitsjane.livejournal.com]

Dude...I feel the same way sometimes. D:
Which is probably why I never really participate in fandom...

[caffeine-buzz.livejournal.com]

When I was little I was more of a tomboy type and hated pink things and "girly" stuff and never ever wore dresses. Now I love pink and frilly things and wear dresses and skirts all the time (basically I discovered that I just really love cute things :P). It always annoys me a little when people complain about characters being "too girly." There's nothing wrong with being girly, dangit. (Also an annoyance? In lots of fiction when it seems like the first thing the convention-defying heroines do is ditch their awful hated dresses and exchange the sewing and cooking classes for fencing. Why can't she ever still enjoy the frilly dresses, do both the sewing and fencing and still be kick-ass and convention-defying?)

[(Anonymous)]

OP, I think I love you. I was/am the exact same way. I used to make a point of wearing pink every now and then because it is such a hypocritical thing (although in retrospect maybe people just thought I was into breast cancer awareness).

[childings.livejournal.com]

Well, on the flipside, you have me, someone whose face was shoved into a urinal once AT CHURCH, at the age of eight or so, because I was apparently too boyish.

[twyla-hime.livejournal.com]

Thank you for this secret. It's sad, but so true.

I was a tomboy when I was little, but I still loved Disney princesses and Barbies and occasional girly things. And yes, I could always feel some intense disdain from boys and male figures over those feminine interests. So I kept it hidden from the boys I played with, and male friends. I didn't think it was fair at all.

There's nothing wrong with feminine hobbies and it should be felt as shameful by women.

[flax.livejournal.com]

Hey, fuck you, anything as dirty as a horse and that poops as much as a horse isn't all that girly!

(I sort of know what you mean, OP, I really do, though I like to think I've finally moved past it.)

[gabzillaz.livejournal.com]

<3

[unsquared.livejournal.com]

Like what you like, and be who you want to be!

[generationxwing.livejournal.com]

Oh my god, I went through the exact same thing!

Watching The Little Mermaid made me feel like I was watching some disgusting German porn, for the secrecy that went into it back then.

Now? I'm like "Fuck yes, I'm watching Beauty and the Beast on my iPod."

[twitchytwitch.livejournal.com]

That's heartbreaking.

Take it from this tomboy who also loved the colour pink (er, lighter shades, not the usual obnoxious varients, though ^^;;;) and some cute stuff, there's nothing wrong with being a girly girl!

I know this makes a lot of people look down on you, but it's their problem, not yours. I wish that fandom and the world in general could be more accepting someday.

-hugs-

[gethenian.livejournal.com]

Someday, I would love to be able to understand people like you, OP. It's not that I dislike them -- my girlfriend is one of those same soert of uber-female females who loves girly crap and all that -- I just will NEVER understand how any of it is remotely appealing. And knowing I can't comprehend gender-specific tastes and trends makes me so, so confused.

[thene]

I was into all that girl stuff too, but also into running jumping climbing trees and such, and the degree to which my mother would encourage one but not the other was notable. When I drifted away from the girl stuff, she was not impressed.

These days I am very thankful to have fandom, because it both acts as a haven from heteronormative pressure to act like a girl and also lets me be as showy and overemotional about things as I damn well please.