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[fscom]

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[fscom]

As I spend less time online, my tolerance for anonymous assholery and even “normal” internet snark is quickly disappearing. If it would be rude to say to a stranger face-to-face, it feels rude to me. But that means active online fandom is a bad place to be and even FS is pretty grating some days. I feel simultaneously like a child and like an OAP, asking “Why can’t people just be nice and polite?”

[(Anonymous)]

Most of the people saying rude shit online are complete cowards and wouldn't dare say even half the horrible shit that they say online to someone irl.

That's probably because talking shit to someone irl has consequences ranging from being cursed out, to beocming a pariah to getting one's teeth shoved down their throat.

[(Anonymous)]

Not sure if I'm putting this right, but it's been interesting to see the polarization of internet dialog over time. There's a large section of people getting ruder and meaner... and also a large section of people going in the other direction where they see any sort of disagreement, even if polite or correcting inaccurately stated info, as an attack and inherently rude and mean. Often they're the same people, too.

[(Anonymous)]

That's a bit of toxic positivity, I think? Maybe that's what you'd describe that as? But yes, even sugar-coating a disagreement or correction will sometimes get someone lashing out at you for "negativity". It's like if they see someone as being the slightest bit "negative" it's a license for them to be a raging asshole in return.

[(Anonymous)]

Not exactly even that, I'm honestly not sure how to put it. Like sometimes there are threads on where were some anon says something obviously factually wrong and people will comment pointing that out, and they respond like they're being bullied and attacked and how dare rude people... not let them go on being confidently wrong?

People's words are getting harsher but their skins are getting thinner at the same time.

[(Anonymous)]

I think I know what you're talking about. Like, there are those posts and memes that argue that you shouldn't correct someone, because that's you being...privileged? Arrogant? Selfish? And also, does it really matter if they're wrong (I'd argue that yes, it does)?

It's thin-skinned, yes, but it's also patronizing, because there's an underlying sense that certain people are incapable of handling the ordinary fact of sometimes being wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I've seen that, too. Don't get me wrong, people can be nasty and unpleasant online, but there are also people who take ANY disagreement as a personal attack, even if it's perfectly civil and mild. I don't know how those people get through life, but I bet they're insufferable to be around.

[(Anonymous)]

I get it. :( People may not swear at you or openly call you a fucking moron, but they'll be condescending and indirectly rude in a more subtle way. People are quick to jump to negative conclusions, and few people are willing to give the benefit of the doubt. Or someone will misread your comment and get mad at you over something you didn't even say. It does make it incredibly discouraging to comment literally anywhere.

[(Anonymous)]

I prefer direct insults to manipulation and hypocrisy.

[(Anonymous)]

What is an OAP?

But also, I...kind of feel this way too? The physical distance created by the internet allows our baser parts to take over in a way that I increasingly find off-putting. There's a lot of social cachet online for dunking and snarking and basically acting like a bully, and it's tiring and distressing.

But what's also distressing is that I often feel myself being pulled into it, as well. When everyone around you seems disinterested in treating one another respectfully and engaging in actual discussion, and when everyone around you is reaching for the most extreme and catastrophic interpretation of everything, it's hard not to do the same. It's infectious, it really is, and if you're not thinking it through, it's easy to fool yourself into thinking that it's not a big deal, because it's all just words on a screen. But that's not true, of course. All those words matter.

Anyway, this means I'm interacting less online than I used to, because I don't want to be part of the problem.

[(Anonymous)]

OAP is an old age pensioner, UK term. Pensioner means the same as senior/senior citizen.

[(Anonymous)]

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I had in my head Old-Ass Person.

[(Anonymous)]

"But what's also distressing is that I often feel myself being pulled into it, as well. When everyone around you seems disinterested in treating one another respectfully and engaging in actual discussion, and when everyone around you is reaching for the most extreme and catastrophic interpretation of everything, it's hard not to do the same."

Same here. When you spend a lot of time online (and I have to admit, I do), it's so easy to repeat the same thing you see happening. I don't want to be that way, but when I see other people being hatefully sarcastic and nasty, it makes me start leaning that way, too. You see other people overreacting to everything, so it makes it seem like that's the normal way to act. Sometimes I catch myself starting to write something really over-the-top that I don't even actually mean, I just get caught up. I try to comment less too, because I don't want to be that kind of person.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I feel you.

[paperghost]

Going to conventions this year really made me more tired of online stuff. It really is like night and day. I'm fine with online snark between friends or people who have the same sense of humor, but so much of the shit people say would get them slapped in real life. lmfao

[(Anonymous)]

I share similar sentiments. I used to enjoy all the snark and always one-upping each other in sarcastic/quippy comments. Always trying to be the smartest debate bro at every corner.

But taking time away from social media and the internet, recognizing that I'm at a different stage in my life, and some other things...I take a lot of breaks from the internet. I know now I don't need to try to make the internet reflect my feelings.
I also hate the whole toxic positivity BS, so even with the best intentions when asking people to be nicer online can come with its own shitty consequences.
"Don't be disrespectful" turns into a group of people doxxing/shaming a fellow fan in their own circle off the platform because that individual dared to say their favorite pop star's new album is disappointing.
I just...get so tired of all the tone policing coexisting with people reveling in their worst interpretation of the world simply because the internet is all online so you can be a tough ass shit talker behind a keyboard.

I think it's better to take a break from the internet than to tell the internet bottom dwellers they're the worst and need to lighten up. But I completely understand the annoyance with all the shittiness on the internet.