[ SECRET POST #7030 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #7030 ⌋

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Beautiful vs. ugly animation.

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't grow up watching a lot of Japanese animation, so my reference is mostly Disney and kid's stuff from the 80s. What would you consider to be beautiful or ugly animation?

Re: Beautiful vs. ugly animation.

[philstar22]

ATLA is mostly beautiful, with a couple bits of ugly occasionally. Powerpuff girls is pretty.

Cow and Chicken was horribly ugly. Powerpuff reboot is ugly.

Re: Beautiful vs. ugly animation.

[(Anonymous)]

I still find the fact that PPG look like they've had their hands amputated is creepy. It reminds me of thalidomide.

Re: Beautiful vs. ugly animation.

[iff_and_xor]

I recently looked up Shakespeare: The Animated Tales, a childhood favourite.

There’s something a bit grotesque about many of the animation styles that I didn’t quite remember. I guess I already liked that kind of thing even as a child.

Here’s their Midsummer Night’s Dream, for the curious: https://youtu.be/hp9gu23rgks

Re: Beautiful vs. ugly animation.

[(Anonymous)]

I was coming here to say how much I loved these animations as well. I see what you mean about the slightly eldritch feel of some of them, though.

Re: Beautiful vs. ugly animation.

[(Anonymous)]

Beautiful: The Secret of Kells, Disney's Sword in the Stone, The Iron Giant

Ugly: One Piece, Big Mouth

Or did you mean specifically japanese animation? Beautiful: Spirited Away, Lain, and Haibane Remei come to mind. For ugly I never liked Lupin.

Re: Beautiful vs. ugly animation.

[(Anonymous)]

if you specifically mean anime, there's a wider middle ground than just ugly and pretty - there are artsy animations made to be very artsy, like Gankutsuo. There are absolutely trash animation done very fast and very simply for hentai - the faces are implausibly weird, the action is janky, and the only thing that ever gets passably well-animated is obviously the sex. In between is the massive gulf of gray. There are beautifully animated action scenes in the same episode of One Piece that also features the jankiest half-assed faces (Toei is notorious for padding their weekly shows with junk and saving the good animation for special scenes). A lot of short-run anime has what one would consider passable animation - it's not art, but it gets the job done in the same way that any weekly Saturday morning episode of Bugs Bunny got the job done. It's not ugly by a long shot, but it's not "beautiful."

Whatever's going on with a crappy reboot of Mononoke is an outlier even among anime, it's not a widespread thing where you can gauge pretty vs ugly on sight. Most anime is like your 80s cartoons - it works. Sometimes better, like Gummi Bears, sometimes worse, like He-Man. It's very rarely "cancel after 6 episodes" ugly, I mean they let shitty He-Man run for how long? It was the same three cells repeated over different backgrounds every episode, and yet that's somehow a classic.

Re: Beautiful vs. ugly animation.

[(Anonymous)]

There wasn't really any SatAM Bugs Bunny: that show was repackaged 40s-60s shorts with a bit of filler animation for opening and closing credits, so the shorts were *usually* better done than their contemporaries (though some of those 60s shorts, oof).

There's also a distinction between attractive/ugly character design and good/bad animation. Hanna-Barbera stuff like The Galaxy Trio or Space Ghost had some pretty neat character designs but the animation was only a step or two above Jay Ward Studios or (on bad days) Filmation.

Can't pass judgment on anime but it seems like a lot of the TV series were about as well animated (or slightly worse) than comparable Western TV series farmed out to Japanese and Korean animators. Things seem to have picked up for both in the 90s, although Western TV character designs went through some *really* weird stages (Spumco, Klasky-Czupo)...