[ SECRET POST #7075 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #7075 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Did you miss that it’s condescending in ASOIAF? I have an opportunity here that I’m not gonna take but your, ah, reading comprehension could use a little work.

[(Anonymous)]

“Oh, my sweet summer child," Old Nan said quietly, "what do you know of fear?
Fear is for the winter, my little lord, when the snows fall a hundred feet
deep and the ice wind comes howling out of the north. Fear is for the long
night, when the sun hides its face for years at a time, and little children
are born and live and die all in darkness while the direwolves grow gaunt and
hungry, and the white walkers move through the woods”

Sounds less like someone was trying to be condescending and cut down someone else, and more like it was an elderly person explaining to a child that they don't understand what winter will be like.

In common usage online it has gotten twisted to be mean-spirited, but it really wasn't used that way in the book.

Maybe YOUR reading comprehension needs some work.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you also complain when people go "say hello to my little friend" and they're not referring to a gun

Nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Come on, you still can take issue with OP’s gripe, but it seems like you were clearly mistaken about the original usage in ASOIAF. That’s okay, it happens to us all. But I think you come out of things looking a lot better if you acknowledge it.

Re: Nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Whoever wrote that isn’t the one who said it was condescending in the books. I made the original comment and the one below but not the one about the little friend line.

Ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for clarifying.

I have got to stop interjecting in threads here. Keeping anons straight is so frustrating.

[(Anonymous)]

That reads as condescending to me *shrug*

Nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Hm… I think it lacks the required air of superiority, especially in the context of the character as the children’s (quite kind, IIRC) caretaker. But I admit it’s subjective and harder to read properly out of context.

Re: Nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT I read it as condescending because she’s brushing off his fear. The gist is that because he has only been alive during summer, his experiences and feelings are irrelevant. There are other passages in the books that allude to the same thing. I can’t see that as anything but condescending.

Re: Nayrt

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt - Interesting, because I don't think she's brushing it off or dismissing it entirely, only trying to (gently!) make the point that whatever level of fear he knows, there are frightening depths and degrees of it that he's not acquainted with because he's never known winter. Because the character is an elderly woman who's in the position of caring for the Stark children, she's speaking to a literal child.

[(Anonymous)]

Haven't read ASOIF/watched GoT but just from your excerpt, it reads as condescending to me too.