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I think a healthcare system that relies on medical insurance is superior to universal healthcare systems. But I also think the medical industry in America needs an overhaul and limits on insurance companies need to be imposed. I sympathize with Luigi and cheer his actions. I think the bulk of money needs to be paid to doctors, not companies, so we can have well educated and competent and possibly even motivated healthcare professionals again. If nothing else, it would help with the shortage of specialists and general practitioners and automatically improve individual care.

wow. Yeah it is controversial. This is fucking bad take

I’m aware most people think so. The only ones I know who agree with me are people who hav lived under both healthcare systems and needed specialty care pre 2000, back when doctors were guaranteed to get rich.

And a lot of countries have Universal Healthcare+Payed Healthcare with excisting insurance.
Killing universal healthcare means killing people.

I’m not sure why you think universal healthcare is a good thing. Do you think it means everyone can see a doctor when they need to? Do you think it means people get the health screenings they need and the specialists visits when they’re sick but undiagnosed? Because really what it means is no one sees a doctor when they need to and screenings are done years later than they should be and if you have cancer you are likely to die before ever getting diagnosed and heart problems will get ignored. You will wait over a year between each appointment only to be referred to someone else where you face another 12-20 months of waiting for an appointment. That’s universal healthcare. It’s happening in the UK, Canada, and Denmark right now. Possibly (probably) other places but those are the three that I have personal experience with.

Australia too. A friend of mine went to her GP for a health issue and they examined her and told her she'd need to see a specialist if she wanted it treated. The wait length to see that type of specialist? Two years.

My father was saved by universal healthcare. Because he WAS screened. And he had got surgery (free) fast enough. So yeah, oh forgiiive me, for thinking that this is a good thing.

And our UH isn't without problems. And am actually paying for some check ups right now and I am not happy about it. But we have screening that you can do regularly without an awful wait list. For example for breast or cervix cancer.
You don't have to pay for insulin, for example, because it is covered.

Personally, I think we need Medicare for all.

Most of what we pay for with insurance is layers of bureaucracy.

Also, ban medication commercials.

I'm on medicare and there's a LOT it doesn't pay for.

OP here and yeah, Medicare and Medicaid both have a lot of
limitations. Most insurances now have lot of limitations and it's all combined with a shortage of medical staff. Waits for specialists are at an all time high and as bad as it for the aging boomers and Gen Xers, it's going to be much worse for Millennials and Gen Z when they reach middle age. The whole system is nearly as close to collapse as the NHS, which isn't to say either system is about to collapse but both are unsustainable. People have already been dying as a result of the strain on each system and it’s just going to get worse.

I don't have the old kind, I have the disabled kind. That pays less.

OP here and yeah, Medicare and Medicaid both have a lot of limitations. Most insurances now have a lot of limitations and it’s all combined with a shortage of medical staff. Waits for specialists are at an all time high and as bad as it for the aging boomers and Gen Xers, it’s going to be much worse for Millennials and Gen Z when they reach middle age. The whole system is nearly as close to collapse as the NHS, which isn’t to say either system is about to collapse but both are unsustainable and people have been dying as a result.

Yeah, I’m okay with Medicare plus a supplemental plan for pharmaceuticals and catastrophic coverage. People hate taxes so charge flat insurance rates for us all

The best systems have both. Universal care so everyone has access. But then some stuff where if you want to pay money you can get faster or whatever. But everyone getting health care without going bankrupt is the most important thing.

But everyone getting health care without going bankrupt is the most important thing. Yes this! And I firmly believe that an insurance based healthcare system is the best way to make that happen. But think everyone is overlooking the part where I talk about overhauling the current insurance system and imposing strict regulations on insurance companies. The idea is basically what Obamacare was supposed to be but expanded to include some government power over insurance companies.

Well, I definately don't agree with you on that. Yes, an overhaul would help some. But I firmly believe that universal health care is simply the best way and the only way to help everyone. Europe has it right.

I would also add that I think it is always a bad idea to put basic life needs in the hands of people and companies who are only in it for profit. That is never going to end well.

I think a healthcare system that relies on medical insurance is superior to universal healthcare systems

Okay, but how? Where has this worked, ever? I do think that a combo works well, but universal healthcare needs to be the basis.

Universal healthcare is a failed drain that isn’t remotely sustainable, let alone successful. Think of what Obamacare was supposed to be: that is what I’m talking about. I’m also talking about overhauling the current insurance system and imposing strict regulations on the insurance companies. They’re currently set up to prey on policy holders and get rich off denying us healthcare. An overhaul would open access to medical services for everyone and stimulate the growth of the healthcare industry, which is currently shrinking and will collapse by the time Gen Z reach middle age if it stays on the current trajectory.

Universal healthcare is working pretty well in a lot of countries, particularly those where it wasn't starved by neo-conservative governments in the hope of privatising it. Obamacare was tinkering around the edges of a system that funnels money to insurance companies. Why not get rid of the insurance company intermediary completely and put all that money into actual healthcare?

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