[ SECRET POST #1242 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1242 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Biohazard]


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["Imagine Me and You"]


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[Nabari no Ou]


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[Yoko Ono]


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[Michael Buble]


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[CSI:NY]


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[Yume Nikki]


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[FlashForward/Lost]


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[figure skating]


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[Lost]


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[Stark Sands -- American Idiot / Generation Kill]


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[Dead or Alive]


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[America's Best Dance Crew]


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[Nextwave]


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(Homestuck/MS Paint Adventures)


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[Firefly]


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149. [SPOILERS for Dr Who]



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151. [SPOILERS for Bleach]



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156. [SPOILERS for RE: Afterlife]



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158. [SPOILERS for Fringe]



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160. [TRIGGER WARNING for shota]
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161. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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162. [TRIGGER WARNING for child abuse, chan, incest, dubcon]









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Comments

[hells-hikari.livejournal.com]

First of all, Christian themes =/= Christian show.

Second, no signs? Did you miss the FOURTH episode in which they EXORCISED a DEMON? Hell, the very premise of the show, two brothers, one of which may or may not be favoured by the father, have conflicts, just screams Cain and Abel.

Third, as sistermagpie said, The duty of a good Christian in that situation would have been to happily agree to be Michael and Lucifer's vessels and bring on the glorious apocolypse and paradise on earth. I agree completely with that statement. But did the show implicate that this is what we should yearn for? Hell no. The angels that wanted the apocalypse were portrayed as evil assholes. Just take Zachariah. I loved him, but Christ, what a dick! Would a Christian show portray an angel (who is sometimes even considered an archangel, if you go by the theory that says that there are seven archangels) that way? Gleefully laughing when people die (because of angels), calling a soul in heaven a MILF and doing naughty things with her, giving people all sorts of nasty diseases? Not really. In contrast, the only angel that wanted to stop the apocalypse, was one of our heros:

Team Free Will. Which brings me to my fourth point.
I hope you're aware of it, OP; free will means much more than "screwing destiny" and not being "God's bitch". It means being able to choose your own path, but it also means taking responsibility for your actions, with no means of hiding behind some greater entity or being able to be redeemed by said greater entity. One can't justify his actions to someone else, but only to himself. And a lot of other things which Sartre and other philosophers can explain much more eloquently than me. Let's just say, in a nutshell, it's always free will vs. god.

And in the end, Team Free Will wins. It wasn't God who defeated Lucifer. It was Sam's choice to sacrifice himself, among other choices done by other people and angels. And now, Castiel, the angel, acts upon his free will when he decides to go back to heaven and be the new sheriff in town. He has no idea if this is what God wants, if God would approve, but he does it anyway. An angel acting on free will? Doesn't sound Christian to me.
And Dean? He fought for free will, he gets free will, including all the consequences. Which means being miserable. In a Christian show, Dean would propably have gotten an ending similiar to Job's.

So, to express it with simpler terms, free will > God's will, which is =/= Christianity. Hence, why so offended?

[kashiichan.livejournal.com]

I love you. <3

[(Anonymous)]

free will > God's will, which is =/= Christianity

You don't understand Christianity, or missed the part in where, oh, Eve jump started all of humanity by making a decision of her own free will, and the part that detailed how it was Lucifer's plan was to take away freewill, to make sure everyone got to heaven. Pretty sure that was painted as a bad idea. Lack of freewill is very clearly stated as slavery in bible's texts. Everyone has free will, otherwise there wouldn't be a point to choosing Christianity to begin with. There wouldn't be a point in heaven or hell. It sounds like you're subscribing to some form of hxc Jehovah's Witness predestination. Free will is a part of life, and if God gives life then he gives free will along with it.

Aside from all that, your argument that "team free will" somehow triumphed over God is just canonically incorrect. God was there, at the end, showing approval over their actions and it was heavily hinted that he had a hand in leading them to that point.