ext_278733 ([identity profile] grayout.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-05-15 05:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #130 ]


⌈ Secret Post #130 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Posting for Liz! Not sure if notfandom 1 is some fandom or not, didn't think so...

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[identity profile] sarajayechan.livejournal.com 2007-05-15 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
2. WORD~!
3. (MY OPINION) It's fine if someone has their own idea of interesting and doesn't find that in a lot of female characters, but when they say "there are no interesting and realistic female characters" as if it were cold hard fact, they're trying to force their ideals. Sounds like your standards are too high.

[identity profile] chaoticchicken.livejournal.com 2007-05-15 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
1. I have that problem with underwater movies. And actually, that part in KH1? I was too nervous to fight the shark.

3. Boss remains, to this day, my favorite female character.

13. RAEP O' CLOCK?

[identity profile] sarajayechan.livejournal.com 2007-05-15 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
13. RAPE O'CLOCK!

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[identity profile] cresselia.livejournal.com 2007-05-15 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
...I think I just died a little inside. D8
hughes: (everyone in the world is integra's ho;)

[personal profile] hughes 2007-05-15 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
3. AMEN. Seriously, I absolutely agree with everything you said there. It's so true: It's lazy writing that makes them uninteresting, as well as the unoriginality and reptitiveness of their characterization in EVERY SERIES EVER, and the fact that them solely being FEMALE automatically makes them compatible with MAINCHARACTERLUV.

AND YES. THE BOSS IS A MAJOR EXCEPTION. SO MUCH LOVE TO BOTH HER AND THE WRITERS FOR MAKING HER AMAZING. <33333

[identity profile] amazingjana.livejournal.com 2007-05-15 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
4 JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN

Seriously, we love everyone there! We would love to have you, honest! (: (: (: (: Everyone's really super nice and cool and stuff. There's nothing to be afraid of. As for talent, I know I'm not the most stellar RP-er out there, but I'm still going for it and having a good time, right? Come on, it's worth a shot! :D

[identity profile] moebot.livejournal.com 2007-05-15 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
3. Fictional women make you resent all women? What?
I just want to bring up that for some reason, people think that female characters need traditionally "masculine" characteristics in order to be considered a strong woman. I know, I know, I get sick of the "healer/white mage love interest" a lot because of the frequency with which it comes up, but just because a character is that, doesn't make them worthless or weak.

And in my opinion, male characters aren't written better than female characters. They too have their stereotypical traits, can be generic, and downright boring. People just forgive them for it because they have penises and are "hot." As an example you used, I think Sakura from Naruto is actually interesting and strong, whereas, characters like Itachi and the rest of the thousands of Kishimoto's prettyboys that stand around and go "...:|" are boring as hell and have no originality put into them whatsoever.

Boss is fucking awesome, though.

[identity profile] sarajayechan.livejournal.com 2007-05-15 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Why does everyone attack the female characters for being stereotypes right away? Male characters can be just as bad: Hapless heroes, suave perverts, knights in shining armor, angsty boys, cackling villains, etc, etc. If you find the male characters more interesting, more power to you, but just cause it has a penis doesn't mean the writers will always do better in fleshing it out.

[identity profile] sarajayechan.livejournal.com 2007-05-15 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
THANK YOU. Marry me and have my internet babies plz kthx.

[identity profile] hooverdam.livejournal.com 2007-05-15 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
4. Are you a fan of something and do you discuss it with other fans of same? Then you're in fandom. RP, fanfic, fanart are all parts of fandom, but they're not the only parts, and one need not participate in any to be in fandom.

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[identity profile] elladarcy.livejournal.com 2007-05-15 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
...I am so much more intrigued than I though I would be.

[identity profile] cakemix.livejournal.com 2007-05-15 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
18.) ... is it bad that I thought that that was Neville Longbottom at first glance? D:

[identity profile] kinneas.livejournal.com 2007-05-15 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Because the "everyone" you speak of has a strong tendency to be female and thus instantly identify horribly female stereotypes and character archetypes much more quickly than their just as prevalent male counterparts. There are a hell of a lot more male characters in all media anyway, lending for a higher probability of them being GOOD, which really just compounds the problem.

IM-Sociological-O.

Not to say I disagree with your general point =\ (thought I do disagree with the OP's resenting actual women, which is just horseshit.)

[identity profile] kinneas.livejournal.com 2007-05-15 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
*horrible :(

[identity profile] sarajayechan.livejournal.com 2007-05-15 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
True. I think the whole 'women were oppressed for so long' crap has been ingrained into the skulls of a lot of women today, so they're paranoid and therefore critical.

...well, maybe. I'm probably wrong as fuck here, I'm a writer, not a psychologist. XD

[identity profile] i-heart-cameron.livejournal.com 2007-05-15 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
3 DO NOT HATE ON CAMERON SHE IS THE BEST EVER


HOW MANY GIRLS IN THE FANDOM TALK ABOUT HOW SEXY AND PERFECT HOUSE IS

AND SHE LIKES HIM AND THEN THEY ARE LIKE WHAT THE SHIT. IT DOESN'T ADD UP. HYPOCRITES.

[identity profile] ew-younerd.livejournal.com 2007-05-15 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
5. AHAHAHAHAH THAT PICTURE IS IRUKA???

3. You're dumb

11. I think pepe le pew is kinda cute :| like his personality and stuff. ..Okay IRL I'd report him to the police but yeah

Daffy is awesome

Daffy/Bugs OTP

[identity profile] ew-younerd.livejournal.com 2007-05-15 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
iawtc

[identity profile] icemilk.livejournal.com 2007-05-15 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
TOTAL WIN.

[identity profile] moebot.livejournal.com 2007-05-15 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I just have a problem with resenting half the population (or yourself) because of poor writing.
I do agree that female characters get shafted a lot, but... to have problems with being a female because of this? It's such a weirdly twisted concept, a la "the media is misogynistic, and because of this, I am going to develop a misogynistic streak." There is a self-loathing there that makes me kind of uncomfortable.

Self-loathing is so 2006, guys.

[identity profile] shahrizai.livejournal.com 2007-05-15 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
6. I hate Kingdom Hearts but all my friends love it. I've found myself with a grudging love for Xigbar, which really doesn't get me anywhere since my friends are all squeeing over Sora, Roxas and Axel. I'd absolutely hate being in the fandom - the sheer size of it would make sure there were at least a few fics with pairings I like, but really, everything popular in KH is why I don't like it.

10. I joined the fandom late too, and I've been told the wank was legendary. I'm pretty happy I avoided it and just got the goodfic. CLAMP wank is bad enough from the sidelines with CCS and TRC, I don't need X/TB.
barda: (meroko|snow white)

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[personal profile] barda 2007-05-15 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
lolol
barda: (misuzu|our dream)

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[personal profile] barda 2007-05-15 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, number 1 made me giggle. XD

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