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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2010-11-05 04:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #1402 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1402 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Umineko No Naku Koro Ni]


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133. http://i56.tinypic.com/2dt3zns.jpg
[linking this image just in case (depiction of dub/non-con)]


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134. [SPOILERS for BtVS]



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140. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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141. [TRIGGER WARNING for half-dressed real child in the image, pedophilia, and on]
http://i53.tinypic.com/5znuo5.jpg


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142. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, also blood/violence/implied rape in the image]
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(Anonymous) 2010-11-05 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
What exactly is the difference between that anon and wanting to murder someone and not doing it?

It's not the urges that hurt people; it's the people who ACT on them that hurt people. This anon is NOT sleeping with any children... what is the harm?

(Anonymous) 2010-11-05 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
IA. You can't help what turns you on, but you can help how you respond to it.

[identity profile] necrovmx.livejournal.com 2010-11-05 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Taking the pro-pedo route eh?

Stay classy, anon.

(Anonymous) 2010-11-05 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
You didn't answer that anon's question. Who is that first anon hurting? Please do tell.

[identity profile] necrovmx.livejournal.com 2010-11-05 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
No I didn't, I'm not required to answer anybody's questions.

(Anonymous) 2010-11-05 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, all right. I don't see at all how having fantasies or desires but never acting on them is a bad thing, but I guess we will have to agree to disagree. :)

(Anonymous) 2010-11-05 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
you're one of those people who think people with rape kinks are rapists, aren't you?

[identity profile] necrovmx.livejournal.com 2010-11-05 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Because that's TOTALLY what I said, right?

[identity profile] jade-lightning.livejournal.com 2010-11-05 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Except how liking loli/shota isn't the same as being a pedophile, at all.

[identity profile] necrovmx.livejournal.com 2010-11-05 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[identity profile] jade-lightning.livejournal.com 2010-11-05 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd honestly love to know how fantasizing about a fictional character or watching a cartoon is exactly the same thing as going out and raping a real, live child. Some of the people I know would smack you in the mouth if you even dared to suggest that a drawing is the same as what was done to them because it's really fucking not.

[identity profile] necrovmx.livejournal.com 2010-11-05 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
And there are people who would point out that "being a pedo" and "molesting kids" is not the same thing. You see that in this very thread. So no, I'm not saying that "liking loli = child molestor" but yes, it does make you a pedo.

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ext_81845: penelope, my art/character (gross)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2010-11-05 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree there's a difference between a fetish and actual intent -- but anon is still creepy as fuck, sorry

The fact that shota fans are treated differently in fandom than guys who are into loli has also bothered me for a long time. What the fuck is the difference?

(Anonymous) 2010-11-05 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
There's the difference in that most guys who like loli want to fuck the pure innocent loli. *Most* girls who are into shota would want to *be* the pure innocent shota and be swept off their feet by the older man.

In practice, they're both fictional pedophilic relationships though, so the distinction is minor.

[identity profile] doktordeathray.livejournal.com 2010-11-05 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Whoa, do you actually know any shota fans? Pretty sure that's not usually the case.
Regardless, shotacon and lolicon are on the same level and fandom double standards about that are infuriating. If a guy admits to watching mahou shoujo anime it's creepy and he's a pervert, but if a Kuroshitsuji fangirl openly has the hots for Ciel it's totally okay...?

(Anonymous) 2010-11-05 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
These are marketing facts, not my opinion. Most shota - canon shota, not fan-shota - is designed to have the viewer empathize with the boy, not the older man, like most yaoi - canon yaoi, not fan-yaoi - is designed to have the viewer sympathize with the uke. Most loli is designed to have the viewer empathize with the older man, not the girl. Read up on shota/loli producers in Japan; that's how it works.

I never said that either of those were more or less okay than the other. I'm not judging anyone, only saying what one of the differences is in the genres themselves.

(Anonymous) 2010-11-06 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Where'd you get these facts? Most of the particularly pornographic shota I've seen looks to be made for the viewer to identify with the older man (especially in the mangas I've read, but that may be due to the fact that I have read a lot more shota manga than shota anime). I'll give the example of Boku no Piko; the older man is very plain and "relatable" while there's a huge focus on the eroticising of the young boy.

Not to mention, I know a lot of women/girls personally who are shota fans and are attracted to the young boys and identify with the older man's role (even if they themselves identify as females in other circumstances).

Going anon because not a ton of people know I used to watch/read shota. -_-;

(Anonymous) 2010-11-05 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
"if a Kuroshitsuji fangirl openly has the hots for Ciel"

Er? That isn't "shota." That's a fangirl having a crush. Ages of fictional characters rarely have anything to do with their maturity level or physical appearance anyway, so I don't see how that's relevant to the shota discussion. Now if you were talking about "a girl admitting to watching shota series" that would be more to the point. But I just wanted to point out that the things you're comparing aren't... comparable.
ext_81845: amuro ray from mobile suit gundam, in his underwear, from the doan's island episode (WTF?!)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2010-11-05 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Ages of fictional characters rarely have anything to do with their maturity level or physical appearance anyway

LOL, what.

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ext_81845: the character ray person from generation kill, squinting and smiling/smirking (yeah... no.)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2010-11-05 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
You



are a total fucking moron

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(Anonymous) 2010-11-05 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I explained myself more clearly above. For the record I'm not judging one side to be worse than the other.

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[identity profile] doktordeathray.livejournal.com 2010-11-05 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

[identity profile] jade-lightning.livejournal.com 2010-11-05 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly.

(Anonymous) 2010-11-06 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Once I get past the EW SHOTA EW feelings, I actually have to agree with this anon. I still find the idea of enjoying shota as a fetish disgusting as all hell, but if you're not hurting any real children, what's the harm? People can't help who they're attracted to. It's how they deal with these feelings that determines whether they're a monster who ought to be put to death, or just a sick fuck.