ext_278733 ([identity profile] grayout.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-05-27 06:00 pm
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[ SECRET POST #142 ]


⌈ Secret Post #142 ⌋

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[identity profile] levikitty.livejournal.com 2007-05-28 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
10. What if a canon character could be the author of canon's wish fulfillment? Wouldn't that make them, by your definition, a sue? And this is a difference in opinion, but I don't consider wish fulfillment a sue requirement, though it often goes with sue writing, nor do I think that the fact it's fanfic has anything to do with it. An original character in an original story can be just as sueish.

[identity profile] lostremnant.livejournal.com 2007-05-28 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
My definition of Mary Sue comes from Star Trek fan fiction of years ago, where the definition was a self insertion of the author in the story as a character who was beautiful and perfect and usually had a love interest with whatever character the author had a crush on.

These days people seem to think that a Mary Sue is any female character who is strong and able to take care of herself instead of being a pathetic woeful damsel in distress who always needs the male hero to rescue her. I don't agree with that definition.

[identity profile] klytaemnestra.livejournal.com 2007-05-28 04:40 am (UTC)(link)

That's my definition,as well.

Yeah, I hate seeing how every other female character is a 'Mary Sue'. I hate self inserts ... but what I hate more is this trend of calling all these female characters Mary Sues because they actually can do stuff, or have problems ... or whatever. I keep seeing, 'Blah blah Elizabeth Swann is a Mary Sue.' Oh really now? If so, what the fuck does that make Jack Sparrow or fucking Will Turner? But no, because they have a penis stupid fanpersons believe they can do no wrong.

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