[ SECRET POST #1496 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1496 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 12 pages, 293 secrets from Secret Submission Post #214.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

24. http://i51.tinypic.com/30lgf0x.jpg

[rythen.livejournal.com]

My friend and I often talk about how great some of the plot parts are, and how we really wish they hadn't cancelled it. The show had a lot of plot potential, and it was only just starting to unfold.

(It's also funny... of the chars, Gir is not our top favorite)

[antoj.livejournal.com]

i used to be into this fandom and I have to say I really agree with this. Part of the reason I left was because of the LOLRANDOMTACOMONKEY shit it had going for it. ): GIR can be funny sometimes, but he definitely wasn't my favorite part of the show at all.

[(Anonymous)]

Gir made me laugh a few times, but I'm baffled as to why he's the favorite/most remembered aspect of the show. He wasn't that funny, the randomness gets old fast, AND WHAT ABOUT DIB!!!

The show had a lot of interesting stuff going on, but I also got sick of the 'Everyone everywhere is an idiot!' aspect.

[xxsomeoneelsexx.livejournal.com]

I always thought that underneath all the LOLRANDOM there were a lot of social messages in that show, and it always made me slightly uncomfortable because they were all negative ones. It was kind of like an editorial cartoon aimed at kids.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, Zim. Brings back memories.

Anyhow, yes, I do think it has something to do with the time that had passed, because I entered the fandom when it was just cancelled, and I do remember plenty of debates and such.

[carey-pontmercy.livejournal.com]

My favorite thing about the show is Zim's extremely cynical (yet fundamentally clueless) understanding of human relations. Especially in the episode where he tries to make a friend.

[universejuice.livejournal.com]

When I was nine and this show first came out, yes, I was in love with the random aspects. But now, looking back, the show has some deep themes that would be great to explore and overanalyze--I am the biggest nerd for big essays on analysis, themes, and other such things. I haven't watched the series in FAR too long, and it would be great to get back in that way...

[(Anonymous)]

lol. Meh. I love Zim and all, but really? I might not be able to take it too seriously, I guess-the animatic to 'FBI Warning of Doom' comes to mind (The actors being named things like "areola" etc)

I just don't think it was meant to be deep.

[cheshirecgrin.livejournal.com]

I still have fond memories of this show. It's the reason I got through middle school and remained as sane as I did. Though my friends, who were also Zim fans along with me during middle school, remember it in conjunction with how horrible middle school was, so

Anyway, after my pointless rambling above, I'll just end by saying that I agree. I wish the fandom was less "OMGLULZ SO RANDOM", less teenage kids just liking it because it's "edgy" and sold in Hot Topic, and more people liking it because of plot analyzing and detail noticing and other things, like some of the other fandoms I'm in.

[cheshirecgrin.livejournal.com]

That sentence up there should read "so they don't really like it at all anymore, don't like to reminisce and talk about it, and distrust anything that reminds them of it."

[avalise.livejournal.com]

GIR is a fun character, but overrated. The Tallest were always my favorite.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I think I have some potential whatever-the-Purple's-VA-is-named fangirling laying around in me somewhere.

I seem to recall my favorite was Gaz, since she knew about Zim enough to not give a shit.

[eyepatchmcgee.livejournal.com]

WATCH "KIDS IN THE HALL" IF YOU LOVE PURPLE! his name is Kevin McDonald!

[zenity.livejournal.com]

Yesss. There was so much more to this show, not to mention all the different civilizations they made on other planets. I really loved seeing the Tallest and how the irken society worked.

Oh, and last week at ohayocon Rikki Simmons talked about the show a bit and said back in September they tried to bring Invader Zim back. o_o Even Jhonen was behind it. can you imagine, this 10 year old show coming back after so long? It really makes me sad that 99% of the fandom just loves teh randum humor lolz gir.

WAFFLES!!!!

CHOCOLATE BUBBLEGUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:|

[cephiedvariable.livejournal.com]

Yeaaah.

I don't think the show was ever meant to be particularly deep, but it was pretty clever. It's a weird show in that the humour is almost this perfect mixture of juvenile and sophisticated I don't even know. I went back and watched it recently worrying that it would look really stupid in retrospect, but I found myself enjoying it just as much as I did back in High School.

I think people underestimate it a little; silly or not, Zim's got a pretty solid core theme about childhood that is rarely touched on in kid's shows. There's plenty of shows aimed at kids about outcasts, but they're usually pretty fluffy and reassuring and about finding your place in the world/becoming accepted, whereas IZ was kind of brutal in the outright neglect and derision the main characters faced from pretty much everyone around them. There are a lot of kids who feel like this- some justified, many not- and I always thought it was pretty heartening that Dib and Zim just kept doing their thing no matter what people thought.

Uhh, is that meta enough for you? :D

[genericzombie.livejournal.com]

oh my god a DUCKMAN icon :O This has totally made my day.

[cephiedvariable.livejournal.com]

I HAVE MORE

[masked-creator.livejournal.com]

I was surprised with how much shit this show got away with for being on Nickelodeon. There was Nightmare Fuel in almost every episode.

Zim was the best though. Even though he consistently fails at almost everything he does he doesn't allow it to bother him and just comes up with a new plan. His overly-dramatic reactions just made it funnier. <3

[http://users.livejournal.com/_confunded_/]

I think that at the time, Jhonen invested a lot into the characters. He had a lot of episodes planned that focused on why Zim is the way his is (IE: never being accepted, etc) and more eps featuring him and Dib's accidental camaraderie. I'm glad Nick canceled it, because JCV really wasn't having fun anymore near the end, and for a show to be good, the guy in charge has to be enjoying the work. But I agree that there is a lot more to the show than most fans give it credit for (but then, like you said, most fans are in it for Gir and the stoopid hyumore that Jhonen always throws into his stuff to cover up the deeper messages). I wish Invader Zim fans and Jhonen fans in general weren't so idiotic and weird. I'm a huge fan of his but I always feel slightly embarrassed about it because I don't want to be pegged as one of "those" fans, and Jhonen truly hates most of his fans because they're so fucked up. I wish he knew that there are still some of us out there who don't want to be Johnny and don't refer to ourselves as Invaders. Ugh.

TL;DR: I agree with you anon, nice to see that I'm not the only one.

[shrocomemos.livejournal.com]

I AGREE. :c Gir is cute, but he's definitely pretty far down on my list of Favorite Things about the show. I find the Irken society incredibly interesting-- when I recently rewatched the show and commentary and found out they planned to go into a lot more detail with that, I was so upset. (asdjkaaaaargh fuck you nickelodeoooon) Plus, y'know, the characters themselves are very interesting.

[tadashi-chan.livejournal.com]

Holy crap, I was watching this show the other night, and I couldn't help but wonder if there's a fandom. I'd personally love to see some serious (and maybe some not-so-serious) Zim/Dib discussion. Cuz, yeah. That'd be cool.

Ugh do not want

[(Anonymous)]

Zim is an old man, Dib is a child. That ship is squicky beyond belief. Just sayin'

[madamotaku.livejournal.com]

I'm an adult fan of this show and I never got into the fandom much, so it always surprises me a little when people dismiss this show as being for idiotic fangirls and no one else. It really depressed the hell out of me when the show ended and I saw what they were going to do with it in the second season. It sounded so very cool. ;_;

[chyroptera.livejournal.com]

Okay, I don't know WHERE this is, but I do remember people having very serious conversations about IZ canon. Like, how did Irken reproduction work? What about that backpack? Etc etc.

That was a while ago... but it's gotta be out there!

I can't believe it's been a decade since it aired!