[ SECRET POST #1536 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1536 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Young Justice]


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42. [SPOILERS for Naruto]



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43. [SPOILERS for Shoujo Kakumei Utena]



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44. [SPOILERS for Professor Layton and the Unwound Future]



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48. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape/non-con and underage]



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49. [TRIGGER WARNING for ED]



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50. [TRIGGER WARNING for suicide]



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52. [TRIGGER WARNING for ED]

[Man vs Food]








Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #219.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - ships it ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[mount-fraught.livejournal.com]

i hate the term "gamer" and "gamer girl" is even worse
ugh
why would anyone take PRIDE in playing video games? it's not like you're even doing anything productive. first female president? yes. be proud. one of millions of females who play video games? just shut up and keep playing and having fun or do something worth being proud of
not a difficult concept

[womance.livejournal.com]

You mean, why would anyone take pride in something that they like doing, that they're good at, and that they have fun doing?

Inconceivable.

[mount-fraught.livejournal.com]

i don't even know how to respond to this

[(Anonymous)]

the 'gamer' community is kind of weird since I guess you don't see such a big and rabid community of film-watchers or book-readers, but I reckon it's partially explained by the fact that people who play games are linked by shared experiences, not that they're proud of playing games. A movie takes you a passive 2 hours max, a book might take you a few days to get through; a typical RPG now might take you 20 to 40 hours and actually interact with you. By the end, that wasn't just something you read or watched, it's like living a short extra life. I think that's why people wouldn't bother to go and listen to a movie soundtrack performed live, but people do go to Video Games Live. just my thoughts there, whatever. also frankly i'd say a game has the potential to be more productive than a movie, but i'm not really into movies vo_ov

[mount-fraught.livejournal.com]

that is actually really interesting. the shared experience idea is actually really applicable but it doesn't necessarily ignite pride in me. i've felt slightly smarter after all the vague history lessons i've sat through over the course of the metal gear solid series, though.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not proud of being a girl gamer either (those who are are probably proud of eschewing social norms, not actually gaming), but sometimes games do make me feel proud in a weird way - because even though I technically achieved nothing while playing them, it's hard to completely disassociate from the feeling that YOU saved the world, YOU comforted your friends, YOU solved the murder case. To some extent, every protagonist is a part of you, especially if it's an RPG with choices to be made. Games are all about making you FEEL accomplished and a part of something, and they're good at manipulating you into going along with that. (I'm only talking about single-player games here, because that's the kind I play; multiplayer games are more about literally increasing your skill and achieving things in opposition to other real people, so while they're not very useful things, it really was you who did it and not your ingame avatar).

[mount-fraught.livejournal.com]

I agree that protagonists do wind up becoming a part of me (hello persona 3). However, I personally try to distance myself from thinking I saved the princess because it makes me feel like I've done something fantastic when I've really only wasted time that I could have been spending accomplishing other things.

[joltyness.livejournal.com]

I think that's why people wouldn't bother to go and listen to a movie soundtrack performed live

??? Plenty of people do. There are John Williams tribute concerts all over the place.

[joltyness.livejournal.com]

Vdeo games take such a large amount of time to finish than, say, a movie, and are easier to pick up than a book. People who enjoy films/books are not watching/reading all the time, whereas most gamers I've seen are gaming for hours every day.

Also, games are typically targeted at a much more specific audience than films or books. There are tons of films and books for practically every age and gender. Games, however, are usually targeted at younger males. Yes, it can be argued that there are plenty of video games out there made for women. Walk into a GameStop and tell me how many female-targeted ads there are--I guarantee you the store is filled with testosterone-laden advertisements exhibiting violence and "hot chicks". The industry knows who makes up the majority of its audience and creates their product accordingly. Therefore, there is a tighter "community" because most are in the same age range and of the same gender.

Yeah, that's just my .02. :T

[christ-chexx-4u.livejournal.com]

im with you on your second point. the first.....notsomuch. video games are in no way easier to pick up than a book, unless theyre on a mobile device, and the impression i get is that the bigger, longer, more involved games are not. plus you dont have to worry about volume or battery life with a book. and people who enjoy films and books absolutely spend hours a day reading or watching movies! yeah, sure, there are casual readers or moviegoers, just the same as there are casual gamers. but if its something youre really interested in, its something youre going to devote a lot of time to, and that goes for any hobby, really. it just seems silly to write off the huge amounts of people who always have their nose in a book, or are watching and critiquing movies every night of the week.

[relmneiko.livejournal.com]

A big part of gaming is competition, you know. That's where the fun is for a lot of people. And you can't have competition without pride.

[mount-fraught.livejournal.com]

you have a point.
however i feel like competition doesn't necessarily apply when it comes to games like zelda, which is apparently what the subject of the secret is all loud about. it's something you do on your own, generally, it being a one-player game, and the only thing that varies from player to player is play time or sidequest completion. in my experience those aren't too competitive and nobody really pays attention, but ymmv.
i'm referring to the "i'm proud to play video games because i have a vagina! i withstand ~OPPRESSION~" mentality.

[(Anonymous)]

...are you lost? This community has "fandom" in the name. Why would anyone take PRIDE in fandom? It's not like you're even doing anything productive.

[mount-fraught.livejournal.com]

i am in fandom because it's fun
i'm not proud or embarrassed of it, it's kind of just who i am. i'm proud of myself as a whole, but a day spend drawing fanart for me does not boost my self-esteem because i have high standards for myself

[mount-fraught.livejournal.com]

whoops, meant to say "just part of who i am", not "just who i am." what r typing

da

[(Anonymous)]

Uh, that same logic can be applied to gaming.

You're in fandom because it's fun. I play video games because it's fun. Fandom is what you're into, it's just kind of who you are, video games are what I'm into, it's just kind of who I am.

I don't get any self esteem out of beating a game, but the satisfaction that hey, I've completed something, similar to how I'm sure you gain some satisfaction out of completing a work of art.

Re: da

[mount-fraught.livejournal.com]

to some extent, i think you're definitely right, and i see your point. however, completing a game doesn't earn me anything real. when i am in class and i finish a well-drawn, physical piece, i feel very proud because my skills have developed and i'm closer to getting into the college i'm aiming for. playing video games, for me, definitely brings satisfaction, but not pride.

[(Anonymous)]

And yet you read some kind of built-in pride into the term gamer. Funny, t hat.

[mount-fraught.livejournal.com]

i truly didn't mean to offend anyone, please refrain from name calling.
in other news, welcome to the internet, snark exists

[(Anonymous)]

haha what, you get offended by their comment and then tell them off for being offended by your comment. in other news, welcome to the internet, name-calling exists

[(Anonymous)]

It's not about pride, it's about having something you enjoy doing and having it in common with other people who also enjoy it.

[lunelight.livejournal.com]

I think that the "pride in playing games" part or your question honestly varies from person to person, but The Escapist's Extra Credits did a piece (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/2005-Gamer) on the term 'gamer', the stereotypes it can represent, and why some who play games are embarrassed to be associated with the term because of that stereotype.

[fer-de-lance.livejournal.com]

For the same reason people take pride in calling themselves "otaku" or "fangirls"? Because they have decided not to be ashamed of their interests and what makes them happy, even if the rest of the world says it's "not doing anything productive"?

It's not like being a gamer (or any other kind of super-enthusiast; look at Obama's fitness mania) removes any chance of becoming the first woman prsident or whatever. People can have serious ambitions and also be proud of (or at least not ashamed to admit) their long-running hobbies, too.

(I'm only a game-dabbler, myself, so this is not a particularly personal rebuttal, save where "call myself a gamer" overlaps with broader "call myself a fangirl" territory.)