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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-03-20 04:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #1538 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1538 ⌋

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[identity profile] micromyni.livejournal.com 2011-03-20 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, there's enough male protagonists in games for it to be more than satisfying for you. And you know that it is possible to actually become a man?

(Anonymous) 2011-03-20 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
You say that like gender reassignment is easy or something, what the christ?

(Anonymous) 2011-03-20 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha, didn't you know that if you don't like the country you were born and raised in, you can leave? Did you know that if you don't like your family, you can disown yourself? Did you know that if you hate your job, you cna find another one?

[identity profile] dethtoll.livejournal.com 2011-03-20 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
what the fuck are you even doing

(Anonymous) 2011-03-20 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
being sarcastic, dumbass. none of those things are as easy as they sound and can take years of pain and effort.

[identity profile] dethtoll.livejournal.com 2011-03-20 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
lol i KNOW you were being sarcastic, turdsurfer, but you're also being an unneccessary asshole like the other anon, so fuck off wanker

(Anonymous) 2011-03-21 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
being an unnecessary asshole, says you? really?

she said something that trivialized gender reassignment and offended people intentionally or not, get over it

[identity profile] dethtoll.livejournal.com 2011-03-21 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
i may be an asshole but never unnecessarily

cry more

(Anonymous) 2011-03-21 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
i don't think i was unnecessary either, as micromyni has let her statement stand. i'm not being an asshole without a reason or without a point so whiteknight more, idrc

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(Anonymous) 2011-03-20 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
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[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2011-03-20 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
The point.

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Your head.

[identity profile] micromyni.livejournal.com 2011-03-22 09:37 am (UTC)(link)
Probably, if I made everyone mad. Could you tell me the point, then? Please?

[identity profile] theditz.livejournal.com 2011-03-20 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
While it is possible, it is a very big and tough decision to make. You come across as a bit harsh, changing your gender is not that easy.

[identity profile] micromyni.livejournal.com 2011-03-22 09:28 am (UTC)(link)
Uh...I was trying to be comforting.

[identity profile] theditz.livejournal.com 2011-03-22 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure you didn't mean to, but you came across as a bit condescending. I'm sure the OP knows it is possible to become a man. It sounds as if you're writing it off as something easy to do, like it didn't involve years of therapy and money. It might not even be allowed in OP's country or maybe the OP is afraid to be shunned by society and family. I'm sure you were trying to be comforting, the phrasing and your choice of words made it sound like you're trivializing a very serious matter.

[identity profile] micromyni.livejournal.com 2011-03-22 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that definitely wasn't my intention. I may not know all the details, but I know that it costs thousands of dollars worth of surgeries. And I didn't know that gender reassignment surgery was illegal in other countries. Which ones is it illegal in?

[identity profile] theditz.livejournal.com 2011-03-23 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory This is a good place to start. I would also like to point out that in Sweden, sterilization(!) and divorce are necessery for legal gender change. Pffft, just goes to show how far we still have to go...

[identity profile] glansbilde.livejournal.com 2011-03-20 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
In your country, maybe. That's a huge assumption to make about someone else. Fro all you know it's illegal where they live or extremely expensive.

[identity profile] micromyni.livejournal.com 2011-03-22 09:35 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry? I know it would cost a lot of money, but it is possible. You could always move to another country to get the procedures done, which is also extremely expensive. But you shouldn't let finances get in the way of your dreams. My comment was meant to be encouraging, and when the comments didn't show up in my inbox, I ended up not being able to defend myself.

[identity profile] glansbilde.livejournal.com 2011-03-22 09:43 am (UTC)(link)
But you shouldn't let finances get in the way of your dreams.

Uhm, what? I'd love for finances not to get in my way. Unfortunately that's not how the world works. Finances get in the way because when you don't have money you CANNOT do a lot things. You can't travel to another country if you don't have money and a passport. And what about leaving your family and everyone and everything you love behind? Sometimes it's not worth it. And sometimes it's simply impossible.

[identity profile] micromyni.livejournal.com 2011-03-22 10:46 am (UTC)(link)
I know all that. I am leaving everything behind to go to another country, and selling everything I own to get the money. But a lack of finances shouldn't make you forget those dreams or dismiss them as impossible. One day you might find you have enough money, but it takes time and a lot of saving.

Why did my comment anger you so much? I never meant to offend anyone, and I don't mean to trivialize how difficult and expensive it is, I just said that it was possible.

[identity profile] glansbilde.livejournal.com 2011-03-22 11:28 am (UTC)(link)
It angered me because you made assumptions about someone elses situation. You don't know wether or not it's possible for them. I get that you didn't have bad intentions, but the comment came off as very trivilazing. For all we know OP has a medical condition that means they can't do it or something like that. Maybe it's really impossible for them. We don't know. I'm sorry if I seem mean or something, but I've just heard similar things directed at me all the time and it's so frustrating.

[identity profile] micromyni.livejournal.com 2011-03-22 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'm sorry if I hit a berserk button for you. :( I made the comment in a hurry and it didn't properly express the sympathy I felt for the OP. Judging by the reactions I'm getting, it sounded quite the opposite. I understand that it's not as easy as my comment made it sound, and I'm sorry I didn't think more before I pressed enter.

[identity profile] glansbilde.livejournal.com 2011-03-22 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, it's okay. :) I've been a little emotional lately and reacted quite agressively so I'm sorry about that too.

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[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2011-03-25 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, I know this was days ago. But FtM here, and I have no idea why everyone jumped all over your comment. I mean, sure, there are a lot of complications involved, but perhaps the OP didn't even KNOW that transition might be an option.

I got the spirit of your comment; sorry you got so much shit for it.