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⌈ Secret Post #1585 ⌋

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[Eek! The Cat, Garfield]

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[Sassy Gay Friend]

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28. [SPOILERS for Puella Magi Madoka Magica]

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32. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]

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35. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, abuse]

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white trash

Rude. Just because a oppressed group happens to be white does not make it okay to use this sort of language.

but it does tho

"Oppressed"? Really?

oh god no.

*fallout shelter*

...There isn't really another name for them. Also echoing the disbelief at "oppressed." They're "poor." There's a difference.

Poor people ARE oppressed.

Honestly, I'm surprised at this comment. Classism is usually one of the few oppressions people actually acknowledge even when they're the type to refuse to admit other systemic oppressions are real. Hell - straight, white, middle-class dudes insisting things like, "Racism no longer exists on a systemic level, it's all just classism (which affects us downtrodden white guys, too!)," is a cliche, it happens with such predictable regularity.

Ah. I'm an idiot. X|

Brainfarts happen. :P

Systemic racism most definitely exists. I do, however, think that in a lot of ways it's tied up with classism.

(perhaps OT) Perhaps the main reason the conservative power structure is still in place in the USA is that the elites of society have convinced people of lower social classes that they shouldn't be fighting for more economic equality by using issues of race as a wedge. Look at the years after Reconstruction or Nixon's "southern strategy" in the 1970s.

Martin Luther King's famous march on Washington was a "march for equality and jobs", something that's been pretty well glossed over by establishment historians.

Oh yes, definitely.

And very nail-on-the-head there, yes. Not much for me to add here but, "yes."

Oppression within and that aimed at the LGBT community is also tied up with classism. Just look at the gay people portrayed on TV - they are almost all from middle class backgrounds/are professionals, although this is changing on British TV a bit.

In what way are they oppressed?

I'm not trying to be argumentative, I hope it doesn't come off like I am - it's just something I've not considered. We're all dead skint around my area, so it's not something I've had a chance to experience.

Well I'm from the US so I can only really speak for the Yoo-Nited States of Amurrica here, but...

The poor bear the brunt of the tax burden (which, of course, they have less money to pay). They're denied things like health care and educational opportunities--things that should be basic human rights--simply because they can't pay for them. And it goes further than that. Have you ever heard the phrase "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer"? That's what's been happening in the USA for pretty much the last century.

Chiming in just to agree with the above anon; at least in the Western nations where I know anything of class issues, there is a system in place to essentially punish people for being poor by making them poorer...and then say, basically, that poor people deserve it and brought it on themselves.

Being of a higher class (even middle class versus working class) gives you innumerable advantages off the top - like better health care, better education, and subtler, harder-to-define privileges like the ability to know the "right" way to dress or act sometimes, or having a better "network" within your profession.

Class privilege is usually generationally cumulative: higher-class people have children who remain that class or do better, while lower-class people can rarely manage to close the gap and fall farther behind with each passing generation that the issue is not addressed.

Black families, for example, in America have been subjected to generations worth of racialized economic discrimination. The result? The total net worth of the average black family is one-eighth that of the average white family.

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(Anonymous) - 2011-05-07 05:56 (UTC) - Expand

(Anonymous) - 2011-05-07 12:22 (UTC) - Expand

manatees.livejournal.com - 2011-05-07 13:36 (UTC) - Expand

Economic oppression is still oppression. In fact, in a lot of ways it's much more damaging than political oppression.

*was not thinking from that angle cause is stupid*

you don't have to be poor to be white trash. hell you don't even have to be white IMO.

I always thought it was because trash was usually taken out in white plastic bags.

Now I feel stupid.

Buh to everyone missing what you meant by "oppressed." ANON MEANS CLASS, GUYS, NOT RACE.

Anyway. The term historically has racist connotations in its history as well, i.e. white people who had fallen to a social level more equivalent to slaves were called "white trash." The implication of "white trash" is that you're not a real white person (and therefore trash).

lol are you serious

What part did you not think I was serious about? The fact that classism is a form of oppression? Or the history of the term?

The part with taking something this stupid seriously. I bet you also think calling strikebreakers scabs is classist because having bad skin is for the poor.

beandelphiki.livejournal.com - 2011-05-07 08:19 (UTC) - Expand

would it somehow be less offensive to just be called trailer trash instead of white trash? or just trash?

or just trash?

Nah, calling a human being "trash" is totally okay as long as it doesn't have a qualifier.

+1 for successful trolling. Have a shiny internet and our new prestigious cat-among-the-pigeons award. :D