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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-05-13 08:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #1592 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1592 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[BSG]


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[Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds]


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[Supernatural]


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[Glee]


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09. [repeat]


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[Once Upon A Time In Mexico]


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[Breakout Kings]


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[Supernatural]


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[Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae o Bokutachi wa Mada Shiranai]


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[Invasion America]


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[Zork Nemesis]


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[Waiting for Godot and Good Omens]


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[Withnail & I]


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[Gorillaz]


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[The Young Riders]


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[Pride & Prejudice]


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[Shantae: Risky's Revenge]


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[bbc sherlock (lestrade)]








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24. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]



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25. [SPOILERS for Ghost Trick]



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26. [SPOILERS for Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey]



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27. [SPOILERS for Death Note]



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28. [SPOILERS for the Tudors]



29. [SPOILERS for Transformers: Dark of the Moon]



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30. [SPOILERS for Portal 2]



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31. [SPOILERS for Portal 2]










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32. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, abuse]



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33. [TRIGGER WARNING for abuse/sexual assault]

[Glee]


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34. [SPOILERS for Doctor Who]
[TRIGGER WARNING for parent death?]



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36. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, racism, abuse, and pedophilia]



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37. [TRIGGER WARNING for self-harm]



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38. [TRIGGER WARNING for sexual abuse]

[Kuroshitsuji II]




Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #227.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] wldcatsprstr-14.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
The only problem with saying "that kink disgusts me" is that someone is going to immediately turn that into "you disgust me." And then it turns into a shit show. Because people automatically make it personal even if the person never intended for it to be so.

The fact that some of these comments are people defending their kinks in a very hostile way just shows that. The OP isn't even saying "OMG your kinks are disgusting" or anything like that. The OP is just saying that people who don't like your kink/are triggered by it have a right to say that without getting flamed, just like you have a right to like it without getting flamed by someone who doesn't.

[identity profile] hikari87.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly! Freedom of expression goes for people who disagree with you, too. There's a difference in "I hate XXX" versus "I hate all fans of XXX" and a lot of people tend to assume the latter, even when it's clearly stated as the former.
ext_81845: penelope, my art/character (your argument is boring me.)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
The fact that some of these comments are people defending their kinks in a very hostile way just shows that.

I'm not denying those people exist either. I think a lot of times it's because they are being overly defensive about it. But it's pretty annoying to have a kink for something you know is wrong IRL to the point that you already feel guilty about it, and then on top of that have someone call you disgusting and all sorts of other negative epithets. Like people can control what they get off to. Yes, people can choose to not act on those urges in real life, but fantasy is fantasy, what is the point of making people feel bad about it?

I would also like to really point out that the "pedo" thing is particularly annoying when a) the "children" in question are actually teenagers, therefore making it not pedophilia and not even illegal in some places, b) you get off to the age difference because, to quote moot, "I wish to be the little girl" and c) one of the reasons it's a kink in the first place is because you experienced it IRL. So I think it's actually insensitive on the part of some of these people to "call people out" for their socially unacceptable kinks when they were molested, statutory raped, or whatever as kids AND THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE THE KINK IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE

[identity profile] wldcatsprstr-14.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
But it's pretty annoying to have a kink for something you know is wrong IRL to the point that you already feel guilty about it, and then on top of that have someone call you disgusting and all sorts of other negative epithets.

I don't think the OP is saying that anyone has the right to flame you or make personal attacks on you because you have a kink. The OP is just saying that people also have the right to say they don't like a kink without getting flamed or accused of attacking someone. There are a lot of people who will go on tirades about how disgusting they think a person is for having a kink and those people are out of line. But simply expressing your dislike of a kink doesn't automatically mean you're making disparaging comments about a person and a lot of people take it that way.

I would also like to really point out that the "pedo" thing is particularly annoying when a) the "children" in question are actually teenagers, therefore making it not pedophilia and not even illegal in some places, b) you get off to the age difference because, to quote moot, "I wish to be the little girl" and c) one of the reasons it's a kink in the first place is because you experienced it IRL.

I didn't say anything about pedos...?

So I think it's actually insensitive on the part of some of these people to "call people out" for their socially unacceptable kinks when they were molested, statutory raped, or whatever as kids AND THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE THE KINK IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE

It looks like you missed my other comment about this. Again, it's not those people's voices the OP is defending. It's the voices of the people that have had those things happen to them and are definitely NOT into those kinks. When they say that they don't like X kink because X happened, people tend to say "Just don't read the fucking fic!" or "Pay attention to the fucking warning!" or "Some people like them and they had X happen to them too so don't go judging people." The person never even said they read the fic and they probably go to a lot of trouble not to get triggered. They also never said anything about judging anyone or thinking anyone is gross/disgusting/etc. But the fact is that they can't even say they don't like a kink without people assuming they go looking for the fic just to complain about it or that they're automatically saying that people who have those kinks are disgusting and shouldn't have them, when it's often nothing like that.

For instance, if a secret was "I don't know why people don't get off on X kink" or "I really like X kink" and someone commented saying that they don't like it for "such and such" reason (and they were really civil), people would automatically scream "THEN DON'T FUCKING READ IT!" even though the person never said anything about having read anything. If the person said "I personally think that X is gross and I can't get off on it," a ton of people would start flaming them about how they're judging people and "how dare you kink shame!" or "I think you're disgusting for calling people disgusting" when the person never said anything about people being disgusting.

If I say I don't like apples and I find them disgusting, I'm not labeling as "disgusting" every person for whom apples are a favorite fruit. But a lot of people can't differentiate between "general claim" and "personal attack" and they go off on people for no reason, telling them to STFU and all that nonsense when the person has just as much right to express their dislike as another person does to express how much that kink turns them on.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
You pinned this one square on the nose, and eloquently so, You should be proud ♥

[identity profile] whak-hat.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 06:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, people can choose to not act on those urges in real life, but fantasy is fantasy, what is the point of making people feel bad about it?

That is a quote wrong on so many levels that it mildly breaks my brain. You are a human, yes? Then you have morals, choices and freewill, yes? Then you CHOOSE to enjoy getting off on rape, murder, childrape, whatever. Your choice, your will. Do not start acting like a victim.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
shut up slut-shamer

you have no dog in this fight

[identity profile] whak-hat.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
And now I'm being accused, by a hetalia-troll-anon, of being an ass for asking people to act like humans capable of thought and taking responsibility for their actions.

Also to the slut slamming, sluts ALSO choose to be sluts. All the negative feedback and whatever of sluts is on them. If they don't like it they can rewrite what the definition of a slut is or go about not being a slut. such are the gifts of free will and a brain to think with. Something you wouldn't understand as you've never practiced the second in your life.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
no I don't like hetalia

you on the other hand are a stinking TROLL that pretends to act concerned for the welfare of women when you are as misogynist as men

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(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
And YOU choose to be a misogynist and ableist trolling asshole.

[identity profile] whak-hat.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
And you choose to be an asshole troll who goes about calling other people asshole trolls while never doing any sort of self reflection or self evaluation because you are happy to stew in your hateful worthless body with your equally as worthless opinion that you thought up and then have never researched or evaluated.

Yes I can see the reason I should take your opinion and your insults seriously because clearly you are a person who's thoughts are of great worth. Also if you're going to insult someone, please don't just pick random words out of the dictionary that you think will make you look more intelligent. It doesn't work.

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(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
In whak_fuck's world:
Everyone is a terrible corrupt person except her.

[identity profile] whak-hat.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
In hiding because she/he's a coward on top of a troll's world the internet is for kiddie porn and they deserve the right to look at it because they are not responsible for ANY of their actions ever. They are also not expected to be a decent human being or think about anything ever because that is not what they should have to do EVER.

If you've noticed run on sentences and a clear repetition of your certain words then you should ALSO take time to think about the meaning instead of choosing random ways to pick at the sentence and bring things into the conversation that don't even belong…

OR we could just skip the whole thought thing and jump to: YOU'RE A NAZZZIII!! REEWEQRWFREFWECQFERWCX! Whichever you prefer though I must tell you I will ignore any reply of the second nature.

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(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
YOU ARE SO RIGHT

THOSE FUCKING SLUTS ENRAGE ME. HOW DARE THEY ACT LIKE SUCH FUCKING IDIOTIC MORONIC SHITHEADS. THEY DESERVE NO LESS THAN TO BE THROWN INTO THE SUN!!

[identity profile] whak-hat.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I find it funny how the morons from the last conversation linger around waiting for the person they argued with before to show up just so they can continue the last fight.

Did you even read my post? Let me answer that for you: no, you're a troll and you don't give a shit about anything. You just go around looking for fights and trolling the crap outta anyone who doesn't have your exact opinion. It's okay, I'm use to the single minded dredges of f.s anons and even more of hetalia-14yearold/wannabe-trolls.

Still if you're not going to bother arguing/thinking my current point/at all, ever in any sort of logical sequence, I'm not going to bother talking to you.

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(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
um

kinks and fantasies are out of you know, sexual instinct, not free will

i get off on noncon and have been raped. don't you fucking accuse me of having poor moral judgement because KINKS DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH MORALS.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
whak_hat will say you deserved it for being a slut, read her ignorant replies

she thinks everyone who disagrees with her likes to rape kids or must be fourteen, she likes pulling that troll tactic out a lot

(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Then you're just a weak brainless woman according to the Almighty Hat.

[identity profile] whak-hat.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
okay sure, continue to believe that if you want.

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(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
who the fuck is this person again
what history do they have here?
help me out

[identity profile] whak-hat.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry but since all the anon's here seem to agree that people should not be help responsible for their actions and that thoughts and morals have no correlation what-so-ever I am declining in any further conversations with this anon or others. All your points have been made invalid and therefor any conversation with you or others can be better served as time used to breath, eat pickles, read a book, breath or generally any activity ever.

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(Anonymous) 2011-05-15 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
She's a bitchy troll, don't waste your time.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-15 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
What brain

(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
JSYK childings, you might be debating with a batshit woman who gets off to degrading others and pretending like she's the hurt victim