[SECRET POST #1611]

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⌈ Secret Post #1611 ⌋



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Notes: technophile had to work late today!


Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 062 secrets from Secret Submission Post #230.

Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ].

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Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

09. http://i52.tinypic.com/34y8ljt.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Yet glados has just as many people who adore her.

[formula-410.livejournal.com]

This

[(Anonymous)]

This. Why do fans always have to make that argument? Wheatley's one of those characters who I'm pretty sure was meant to be chatty and annoying on purpose. You love him or hate him. I think he'd be adorable as a girl too, but maybe that's just me.

Fandom really needs to quit being butthurt about his popularity when the Chell and GLaDOS love hasn't been swept under the rug at all. As someone already pointed out here before Portal is about portals and technology. It's not some miraculous game for the women's movement just because it has some cool ladies in it. Granted that's nice, but there's a lot of hate for Wheatley just because he's male and that pisses me off.

[myrasis.livejournal.com]

there sure have been a lot of secrets like this lately.

[gelaecter.livejournal.com]

And they all sound suspiciously similar and I swear at least two have used the same image as a background. Hmm...

[rattyrayvn.livejournal.com]

Eh, there were a ton of "Wheatley's voice gives me orgasms" secrets before that. The universe is balancing itself out.

[mondaisenshi.livejournal.com]

Depends on the voice for me, honestly. If the voice sold the part, I'd love her just as much as I love Wheatley.

As for the "marry" bit, well, I'm nowhere near there with Wheatley. Maybe a hug. And yet, GLaDOS is sexy as hell ♥, even though I tend to be attracted to men more often than women. So. It seems to me that Wheatley would be more popular with the teenage fanatics, and they're... loud. :V

[yucari.livejournal.com]

Hello, 503rd person convinced they're the only person who can't stand Wheatley

[cloud-riven.livejournal.com]

I kind of hear you. My tumblr dash is full of people who really want to bone that robot. Or, more specifically, a humanized version of the robot that would requite their Chell's undying love. And pretend he didn't try to actively kill you, and that GLaDOS is worse no.

All sorts of awkward.

Still thought he was hilarious though. Kind of hard for me to dislike anyone in that game.

Massive Rant Ahead, I'm Sorry

[(Anonymous)]

Now hold on, hold on. Not liking him is totally fair (although I realize you do like him), but it always throws me off when people bring up the trying-to-kill-you part as a reason that he's unlikeable. The game makes it pretty clear GLaDOS's body has royally fucked him in the head at that point.

--His personality shifts so drastically so fast that it's ridiculous to chalk it up to regular character evolution. The only explanations that make sense are that he was playing you the entire time or that he's been sort of "possessed" by the body. And let's face it, Wheatley is NOT smart enough to pull off that kind of deception.

--GLaDOS makes a point of telling you about the testing protocols and their addictive nature, and it's pretty clear (as well as implied by GLaDOS) that he lacks the willpower she has, so of course he becomes a slave to it. Plus, we don't entirely know what other bits of code are built in to the system that can drive its current core crazy in all sorts of ways. Certainly the power alone is far more than he was ever designed to wield, and who knows what that would do to an AI?

--Even GLaDOS starts to get a little more bearable once she's ripped out of her body. I don't think rediscovering Caroline is enough to make Caroline/her conscience resurface, since she simply tries to delete Caroline once she's plugged back in. The change isn't very drastic, but she WAS plugged in for a very long time. It would take more than a few hours to reverse the damage IF it was the body that drove her crazy. (I'm not suggesting that I think it definitely was, only that it's possible). Also, Wheatley reverts back to his old self and shows regret for his actions once he is unplugged. Neither example is proof on its own -- GLaDOS's improvement is just as easily attributed to her humiliation and loss of power, while Wheatley's remorse could also be attributed to being stuck in space. But when you take BOTH into consideration... it's at least a bit suggestive.

So yeah, um, that was long. Sorry. But basically, I just can't hold him entirely accountable. I believe that the power trip and rage are definitely the result of his own insecurity about his intelligence. And I'm not delusional enough to believe he and Chell were total BFFs. I know he mostly needed her to escape. Whether some small measure of friendship grew between the two is entirely up to interpretation, but there's no direct evidence of it. AND, it's implied in the final battle that he harbors some resentment towards Chell for pretty much being the source of all the suffering in his life. (Which, admittedly, is a little bit true.) But still, even considering those three things, would he really have gone so far if it weren't for the mind screw he got at the hands of GLaDOS's body? I mean it's pretty obvious that Valve was trying to show that he'd been seriously altered by GLaDOS's body, so it just comes down to how much of his behavior you blame on the body and how much you blame on him. That's not as clearly defined, but for me, normal!Wheatley and evil!Wheatley are so radically different that I almost think of them as different characters.


Note: Yes, I am one of his fangirls, I'll admit it. But the part of me that just wrote an unneccessarily long comment was actually the How-Dare-You-Have-A-Different-Character-Interpretation-From-Me Nerd, who I blame on my English Lit classes.

No worries, brosis. I like this rant :)

[cloud-riven.livejournal.com]

But I think you mistook, or read too much into what I said. I'm referring to essentially giving him a free pass due to the whole GLaDOS chassis corrupting everything connected to it, but denying that same doubt for GLaDOS. They're both passive aggressive when not attached, although Wheatley is more genuine about his remarks where GLaDOS is usually sarcastic and a liar. "Genuine" doesn't necessarily mean kind though. I thought it was pretty clear that robots in Aperture, aside from Different Turret, have a severe superiority complex to people.


But I'd say they're both redeemable, or definitely capable of being selfless or fostering some emotion to humans, because they still come back to aid your player character (Wheatley could have just left you behind and cowed in the background after he was crushed and the facility was no longer in danger; GLaDOS didn't need to pull you back in from space). They definitely need and use you for their own goals, but still have enough attachment to stick their neck out for you.

I don't know. Between the apology and the clearly not-euthanized companion cube, I came out of that game thinking they actually could have been triple bffs if two of them weren't robots crafted by crazy people.

Re: Massive Rant Ahead, I'm Sorry

[rayiroth.livejournal.com]

I'm more likely to believe in this theory if after GLaDOS was plugged back in, she went ahead with making Chell as miserable as possible.

I don't actually believe the "I'm rid of you because you are too much trouble" thing, consider the army of turrets she planted out there. I think it's GLaDOS being, my my my, "good", without wanting to lower her pride to admit it.

[brandiweed.livejournal.com]

I didn't know something without a mouth can chew the scenery that hard.

Hell, Vincent Price kept his face 90% immobile in The Abominable Dr Phibes and chewed the scenery like whoa.

[lemon-m.livejournal.com]

You're probably right about the voiced by a woman part. Only because then she'd be competing against GLaDOS, and that's just an uphill battle.

As for the rest of the secret: yes, yes, we know.

[micromyni.livejournal.com]

I think he's SUPPOSED to be annoying. He is, and I don't mind one bit.

[vethica.livejournal.com]

Well, if he were voiced by a woman, he wouldn't have been voiced by Stephen Merchant, now would he? :B

(Disclaimer: haven't played the game, but love Mr. Merchant's voice.)

[(Anonymous)]

THIS. I hesitated momentarily on the voiced-by-a-woman part, because OP was right. I probably WOULDN'T love him as much if he were voiced by a woman. But you are more right, because I wouldn't love him as much if he were voiced by any other man, either. It's not that he's male, it's that he's Stephen Merchant. I went back and tried to listen to Lord's placeholder voice work and it made my skin crawl, even though I initially loved his voice. It's just... nothing but Merchant will do.

Then what can we call him?

[(Anonymous)]

There was a secret a few years back about someone complaining about how he's called Britain in the English version. Because Britain is not the same thing as England (as i'm sure all of you know).

Personally I just call him England because I see him as England, not as the entire UK. I refer to the UK as what they are separately. Though if you see him as the entire UK then I do understand your point.

But really, everyone is SO insatiable about this. We can't call him Britain, we can't call him England, we can't call him UK, so then what can we call him?
I guess I'll just stick with Arthur Kirkland then.

Re: Then what can we call him?

[(Anonymous)]

Wrong secret, sweetie~ You want the next one down.

[rayiroth.livejournal.com]

I seriously suspect that he was meant to be annoying. When I first met him my thought was, "dude he's adorable but I hope he leaves soon because within an hour I will be too annoyed to play."

This stood out more to me than his heel face turn.

I still sort of *like* Wheatley in small doses. But small doses only.

[nightfireblaze.livejournal.com]

For me, I thought he was annoying until he turned evil. Then he was just adorable in an "aww, he's as stupid as a child now. Yes yes, playing classical music and flipping through a book is so very impressive, silly one." kind of way. The part of the game I laughed at the most and hardest was the first time the loading screen turned into "Wheatley Laboratories" just because I didn't understand why it looked so broken before his name lit up.

I don't understand the fangirls that really love him, but I ended up liking him for being so pathetic. If his intelligence didn't seem to drop heavily once he was in Glados' body, I probably would have just thought of him as pure annoying.

[tenebrais.livejournal.com]

If Wheatley had a female voice actor, who would be best for the role?

[cloud-riven.livejournal.com]

Emma Thompson?

I don't know many English actresses (or actors in general), that's all I've got.

[torayakari.livejournal.com]

I'm really shocked at how polarizing a character Wheatley ended up becoming. I'm surprised at how many people either love or hate him, I haven't really seen anyone just... neutral towards him.

So yeah, you obviously aren't the only person who doesn't like him, OP. There's PLENTY of people who just aren't fans of him, which is fine! Just because he IS popular doesn't mean you HAVE to like him.
And I definitely don't think he's popular just because he's voiced by a guy (though Stephen Merchant's an absolutely hilarious and fantastic actor, I don't think Wheatley could really BE Wheatley without him. I never liked the Richard Lord voice). Because GLaDOS has TONS of fanboys and fangirls. Chell too, especially after she got all sexy with Portal 2 redesign.