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[ SECRET POST #1670 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1670 ⌋

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05. http://i52.tinypic.com/15cyp8i.jpg

Link, anyone? Curious anon would like to see.

Between Laurence and Temeraire? Or Temeraire and Lady Allendale?

Even without the fanfic, one could assume dubcon comes into play somewhere, considering the nature of this series to address social problems and whatnot. That, and there's dubcon sort of inherent in the whole dragon breeding process.

I LOVE YOUR ICON

(and yes, i agree with your comment too, but OMG YOUR ICON IS THE BEST. is there a version with Volly on it?)

Not sure where

konora got that icon, but the original art in it is by

ormery, who also did some other Volly art for what you might call...mutant prom purposes.

ANYWAY he has said in the past he is totally cool with people making icons out of his fanart so if there doesn't turn out to be one you like with that image you could always make one! The original is here (http://ormery.livejournal.com/572326.html#cutid1). :D

I knew this author was a fanfic writer first but I haven't done much digging to find her fanfic author handle. Link please? :)

seconded! i want to read more stuff by her while i wait for the next book...

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wait. wait. THAT's Naomi Novik?!?!?!

my mind is blown. of course i've read her stuff. MY BRAIN, YOU MELTED IT.

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Well, yes, I know astolat's fanfic, I've been reading her Aubrey/ Maturin and Merlin stories for years, but I had NO IDEA she was the same person as Naomi Novik.

(You are serious, right? Because at the moment I'm just sitting here with my mouth hanging open.)

Thanks for the link! I truly appreciate it. :) Though your mind may be blown mine will now be filled with fannish glee!

You have got to be joking or trolling.

His whiskers are missing.

He didn't have them yet when he first met Laurence's mom. They grew at puberty.

Does anyone highly recommend this series? It looks interesting...

i have friends who love it and worship it, but they made me read some (i only read a few chapters) and tbh i was bored by it.

(plus personally it kinda irritates me that a woman in fandom who writes primarily slash, when it comes to original she writes a series that is dominated by straight [mostly white? i know the mc is but in this case that's as far as my knowledge extends] men. 'cause especially when it comes to dragon stories, men are really underrepresented.)

You have to remember the time period's very conservative attitude, though. The very few women they have in the fleet are treated with shock and disgust by the general public, and yes it's comparable to the "rum, sodomy, and the lash" Navy but I think putting slash in there would feel token or fan-pandering. As for the whiteness, yes, the MC is white, because the POV corps is British. There are plenty of characters from other countries/ethnicities later in the series, one who becomes a major character is Chinese.

i know the time period and setting, ty. maybe adding dragons AND more equality/representation would be too much, but she chose to write a time period and setting that was straight male-dominated. and whatever, that's an author's right, but it's still a choice.

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If you only read a few chapters than you would have no idea that the heart of the story is the love between Laurence and Temeraire.

I enjoy the hell out of it, the worldbuilding and the characters (as well as the historical aspect of it all, it's pretty accurate except for the dragons). Personally I was never bored by it, but a friend of mine found the battle scenes dull. All-in-all, at least check it out from the library.

Well, I personally highly recommend it. The premise is: what would the Napoleonic wars have been like if the different countries had dragons that they used as an air force? The characters and the story are very good. You get a bit of everything: fighting, politics, friendship, bits of romance. I'm very bad at reccing things, so I'll just leave it at "it's awesome!".

The only person I know who didn't like it was my dad. Basically, he didn't like Temeraire (who pretty much co-stars with the narrator as the main characters) since Temeraire is prone to asking uncomfortable questions and my dad doesn't like the "childish but wise" trope.

I don't really understand critics like the anon above though: It's historical fantasy so yes, dubious social mores and all that. The books do address these questions though (and centres around them more as the series goes on, it's very subtle in the first book as our narrator is a very straight-laced man who gets his eyes opened bit by bit). there actually are a few strong and interesting female characters who are central to the story, but it is set during the Napoleonic wars so don't expect women to rule the world or gay romance (or anything but strictly regulated and parent approved, pre-arranged romance) to be an accepted thing. The social issues level they're at is debating abolishing slavery so... as for the characters being mainly white. well. see above.

Arguably though, the dragons are very much part of the main cast and that's whole different species.

The historical is almost as important as the fantasy in these novels. Yes, she could have set it in an entirely fictional world with 21st century values and made the main character gay but now you're complaining that the author didn't write a completely different story with a completely different set of characters...

Only if you like yaoi/slash subtext between a man and a dragon. At first I couldn't figure out what was bugging me with this book then I realized it was because temeraire and lawrence were always cuddling and acting lovely dovey. At first it was cute but then it got to be really annoying to read. Then I found out the author wrote fanfiction in the past and I just dropped the damn thing completely.

Lawrence and Temeraire were treated as partners throughout the whole series. The books use the fairly common trope of a dragon and its rider being soulmates or some other equivalent. Not to mention that Temeraire is absolutely massive. You're saying that Lawrence can't lay on Temeraire's front leg without it immediately being subtext? At no point was slash ever implied any of the times they were in physical contact.

I don't think it's the author who's been reading too much fanfic, if you see slash in any relationship that's even a little closer than just basic friends >.>

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