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[ SECRET POST #1683 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1683 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Thor]

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[One Life To Live]

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[Jem]

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[Claymore, Twin Peaks]

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[Russ Freeman & The Rippingtons]

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[Transformers/Sabaton]

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[Inariya Fusanosuke/Nyancosan/Maiden Rose]

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[Knight Rider and The A-Team]

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[Psykoneko]

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[Kaze Hikaru]

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[Monster High]

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(Puella Magi Madoka Magica)

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[SGA]

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[Homestuck]

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[ ----- SPOILERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]

25. [SPOILERS for A Song Of Ice And Fire: A Dance With Dragons]

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26. [SPOILERS for Gundam Wing: Frozen Teardrop]

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27. [SPOILERS for Harry Potter]

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[ ----- TRIGGERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]

28. [TRIGGER WARNING for incest]

[Fraiser]

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29. [TRIGGER WARNING for suicide]

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30. [TRIGGER WARNING for suicide]

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31. [SPOILERS for Naruto]
[TRIGGER WARNING for incest, shota]

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32. [TRIGGER WARNING for eating disorders]

[Leverage]

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[Leverage]

It might make you insensitive, but I'll be joining you in the corner of the shunned. This is literally my secret too, if I was every going to make one.

I like you, OP. I have similar thoughts during other scenes in shows.

What the fuck is this secret?

I don't watch the show, so maybe I'm missing something, but are you saying you realized a scene might be hard for some people to watch but you "manned up" and that makes you insensitive.

Because it seems to me what would make you insensitive is being an ass about it, not being unaffected by a vomiting scene. Please correct me if I've misinterpreted this secret.

I think "manning up" and learning to handle things that trigger you in a way that is effective is something that is vastly underrated. The world doesn't stop doing things just because it triggers some people, eventually, people have to learn to deal with their triggers in whatever was is necessary for them.

I don't think you're insensitive at all.

THANK YOU.

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keep-warm.livejournal.com - 2011-08-13 22:10 (UTC) - Expand

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(Anonymous) - 2011-08-19 00:13 (UTC) - Expand

I hate to say it, but I agree with this. Having a trigger is a horrible thing, and it is something that a person should get help for. But it seems (and maybe I'm wrong in this) that many people on Livejournal in particular make no effort to get this help, and continue being triggered by things that quite frankly can be helped.

My fucking god, thank you, anon. Thank you.

What episode was this? I thought I'd seen them all, but don't remember it.

Not OP, but it's the pilot. :)

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marblesonglass.livejournal.com - 2011-08-13 14:51 (UTC) - Expand

It does make you insensitive. Not that the scene didn't bother you, but that you put the word trigger in quotation marks, and in saying "manning up" is something that "adults do," you implied that people who are legitimately triggered are acting childish.

Now, I'm not saying that people who are triggered should not take steps to maybe cope with it--because frankly, I think you are happier if you do end up working past it (and yes, I am triggered by something and am working towards coping as best I can). But assuming that people who are triggered are supposed to get over it simply by "manning up" is the same bullshit as telling people with depression that they should get over it because everyone has problems.

This. This +1 forever.

Agreed on all counts.

I personally interpreted "manning up" as "helping yourself/getting help," however that may take place. Same with depression. "Manning up" may not be "getting the fuck over it" for everybody, it may be "having the strength to admit you need to get help" or "experimenting and finding out what works for you to help you deal with your trigger."

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tazthelemon.livejournal.com - 2011-08-13 05:41 (UTC) - Expand

It's great that you're working on getting over it.

People aren't carbon copies, though. Saying the word "trigger" in quotations and telling people to "man up" is basically treating these people like it's their fault for having triggers, and how dare they inconvenience others by noting "hey this sets off really bad feelings and if there's a way to avoid that it would very appreciate kthnx".

A problem that I've seen with a lot of people who claim to need trigger warnings, though, is that they're not making that effort. I ask them quite often if they're actively trying to find a method that works for them in terms of helping themselves to control the afteraffects of being triggered, seeing a professional, in any way progressively working on making their life easier. Many of them have admitted, that no, they aren't trying to improve their quality of life. Instead they're just sitting around getting triggered and searching out people they can yell at for not putting a trigger warning. If they're not willing to put out effort to help themselves, how can they expect people to always be accommodating to their trigger?

Before anybody tries to pull "YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE" I have an EDNOS and a phobic panic disorder.

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(Anonymous) - 2011-08-13 05:16 (UTC) - Expand

I was thinking about responding to this post and then I just decided that debating this probably isn't worth it anymore

True story!

THIS +1

It's pretty fucked up that we're expected to "man up" if we want to "be adults." No one should have to feel ashamed of dealing with their issues or of talking about them publicly, if that's what they want to do. I'm not attacking you, OP, so much as I am attacking these widespread attitudes.

Blech. I hate vomiting. The lack of control over my own body and the humiliation drives me up a wall. That and dry heaves. Fucking dry heaves.

What the fuck has been happening on Leverage? I really probably need to start watching again....

PTSD is a physiological condition. You can't cure fucked-up wiring in the brain with the power of positive thinking.

Why do people find this so hard to grasp? Is it because it's just easier to call people babies than do anything to ever change the way you behave to be considerate of others?

I do consider trigger warnings flawed, because pretty much anything can be a trigger, but some things are kind of obvious and it's not like it takes very much extra effort to mention them. Even if you don't agree, see it as an ass-covering exercise.

Unless you like unnecessary arguments, of course...

My thoughts exactly when it comes to triggers. I really think that if someone gets life ruiningly upset when others even mention the trigger topicn and show it in action or show different views on it they need to get help with their issues more than other people need to just ignore it and stop talking about it.

I am a rape victim. Nothing in this world will ever make that go away or make what happened to me go away. But if I let myself continually be affected by others' insensitivities and was reduced to tears any time some idiot remarked that he RAPED HARD AT A VIDEOGAME I would be crying nonstop. You can't control other people and just because you and I have the good sense not to joke about rape doesn't mean others won't. Those jokes are not OK and are not defencible however I really think that people underestimate the value of learning to put the past behind them and learning to be strong for themselves and others. Learning to accept what happened to you doesn't mean it's OK what happened but it does allow you to get on with your life.

There's nothing wrong with being upset when you're reminded of past events that were terrible but you can't blame others for it. I choke up when I see rape scenes in films and TV shows and in books. I avoid fanfix that contain non-consensual things. But to say that those scenes shouldn't have been filmed - which is what I see a lot in capslock trigger rage posts - is wrong.

Oh come on. It's kind of insensitive because you're insinuating that being triggered is a personal failing or weakness and that you are somehow stronger than others and overcome it. That you're better than others for not being trigger by what is, for some with an eating disorder, incredibly triggering (watching someone indulge in the disorder).

Some people can quit smoking just by going cold turkey; some need medication or need help forming better habits. It doesn't mean those who end up quittitng easier have the right to be smug about it - they don't have a stronger 'will', they just have the sheer luck to not have the same brain chemistry that makes them hopelessly addicted.

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