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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-08-19 08:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #1690 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1690 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Birdcage]


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03. [repeat]


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[Swan Princess]


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[Yugioh]


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[d.gray-man/katekyo hitman reborn]


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07. [ns]


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[Natsume Yuujinchou]


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[deus ex]


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[Beelzebub]


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[Leverage]


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[Jon Richardson]


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[Suburban Knights / TGWTG]


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[A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones]


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25. [posted twice]


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[MST3K -- Pumaman]


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[Switched at Birth]


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[Risen: Dark Waters]


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(Family Ties, Out of Practice, Everwood)


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30.
[David Mitchell and Lee Mack]


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32. [SPOILERS for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy]



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33. [SPOILERS for Harry Potter]



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34. [SPOILERS for AtLA]



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35. [SPOILERS for Portal 2]



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36. [SPOILERS for Rise of the Planet of the Apes]



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37. [SPOILERS for Fringe]



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38. [SPOILERS for Puella Magi Madoka Magica]



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39. [TRIGGER WARNING for child abuse]



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40. [TRIGGER WARNING for self-harm]



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41. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]

[Rihanna]


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Notes:

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-08-20 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
13. http://i.imgur.com/0mik3.png

[identity profile] lashiec.livejournal.com 2011-08-20 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Grell is the ONLY reason I ever looked that series' way, even for just a moment. Hnngh.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-20 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
THIS so much. I really wish him and the other shinigami could get their own spinoff manga they're the only reason I still follow it.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-20 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Her. We have had this discussion.

(And if you want to actually be grammatical, she.)

(Anonymous) 2011-08-20 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
Can we have one Grell secret without trans wank? Just one?

(Anonymous) 2011-08-20 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
I think you misfired, you probably meant to respond to the person who called Grell "him".

(Anonymous) 2011-08-20 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
nope it was meant for the person trying to be all ~but it's HERRR~ when all we have are shoddy translations and no proof grell is trans lol, in other words shut up & let people say whatever they want

(Anonymous) 2011-08-20 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
yup so we established it could also be him :D

Does he HAVE to be trans?

(Anonymous) 2011-08-20 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think Grell feels like a female trapped in a man's body. I just think he likes calling himself a woman because he's eccentric that way.

Exactly WHY does a supernatural, non-mortal being have to have gender-identity issues? S/he can do whatever s/he wants.

Re: Does he HAVE to be trans?

[identity profile] judo-creature.livejournal.com 2011-08-20 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
Why is it that people will rail and rail and rail about visibility and representation for gay characters, and at the slightest indication will claim a [male] character is gay and will nail anyone who tries to write them as straight or interested in a woman to the wall, but they will make every single bullshit excuse their little fingers can squeeze out to keep from acknowledging genderqueer or, God forbid, trans characters. "Because he's eccentric that way"? Give me a fucking break.

If the evidence toward Grell being trans was switched with evidence toward Grell being gay, I'll bet you anything people would hold that information like a holy truth--as opposed to vehemently arguing whether "I want a sex change" really means someone is trans or not. Tell me, would you strain to find a way that "I want to have sex with men" could mean anything other than X character is gay?

You are all a bunch of fucking hypocrites.

Re: Does he HAVE to be trans?

[identity profile] saiika-von-maou.livejournal.com 2011-08-20 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe if it was someone else, I could see it. I just personally don't believe that Grell thinks he should have been born female. Drag queens call themselves female, but most of them don't actually want a sex change. I feel like Grell is the same way. Can you not automatically assume that I'm nitpicking because "Muuuhh, no, he CAN'T be trans?"

And if we're setting aside the "trans" argument, then there's a shitton of evidence that he's gay, or at least bi. I STILL think he just does whatever the fuck he wants.

Re: Does he HAVE to be trans?

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Re: Does he HAVE to be trans?

[identity profile] opal-skies.livejournal.com 2011-08-20 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Because the author says so.

Education: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/emerwen/47.jpg

Re: Does he HAVE to be trans?

(Anonymous) 2011-08-21 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
in an obscure interview which not all fans are aware of.

and people may, in fact, decide to ignore it even if they know about it because they only count the manga or anime as canon. just like some harry potter fans may - and do - ignore all rowling's post-series interviews, including the now famous "dumbledore is gay!" one, because from their pov those are not canon.

so until that interview is published in a manga volume and - just to be on the safe side - that volume is translated into english or it's in some other way stated in the manga that grell is trans, it's not omghorribletransphobiawrong of people in the english speaking fandom to use male pronouns when they talk about grell.

Re: Does he HAVE to be trans?

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[identity profile] princesoup.livejournal.com 2011-08-20 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
who gives a shit about some minor character in a manga and people who might not have read that one single line in a hard-to-find interview that not everyone knows about

why not get worked up over real transwank in the real world and actually make a fucking difference

[identity profile] opal-skies.livejournal.com 2011-08-20 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Because transphobia and the like in fictional works are often a reflection of the real world? In the same way that fandom is also a microcosm of the rest of society?

(Anonymous) 2011-08-20 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
In the same way that fandom is also a microcosm of the rest of society?

Using that logic, the world is a place where most people support gay couples openly. The society is also dominated by women and there's always a shock when a famous person turns out to be a man.

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[identity profile] opal-skies.livejournal.com - 2011-08-20 23:54 (UTC) - Expand

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[identity profile] princesoup.livejournal.com - 2011-08-20 23:37 (UTC) - Expand

(Part 1) ^^;

[identity profile] opal-skies.livejournal.com - 2011-08-21 00:28 (UTC) - Expand

(Part 2)

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(Anonymous) 2011-08-20 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Undertaker is getting interesting, though! Otherwise, yeah, Grell is one of the only reasons I keep reading it. The pretty are doesn't hurt, either.

[identity profile] wolfiemon.livejournal.com 2011-08-20 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
I love all the characters still. But Grell is so awesome. All the scenes with him in the newest chapters are the best. xDD

I loved when Ronald asked Sebastian if he is "the rumored Sebas-chan."

xDDD <3<3<3

(Anonymous) 2011-08-20 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
Grell is the only character I care about, too.

(but I don't read or watch kuroshisomething, so it's more of a one-character-interest thing, I think)

[identity profile] cheshirecgrin.livejournal.com 2011-08-20 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Grell's the only character I really care about anymore, no offense to any of the other characters. But I hear things are getting good in the manga again so I need to catch up (I stopped reading about a chapter into the murder dinner mystery thing arc).

[identity profile] inferno04.livejournal.com 2011-08-20 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the murder mystery arc goes on too long imo, but has a nice outcome. The current one is one of my favorites yet AND it includes Grell, so check it out if you like him/her. =)

(Anonymous) 2011-08-20 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
love herrrr

(Anonymous) 2011-08-20 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
This this this

and I don't even read kurosadfgthing

[identity profile] night-owl-9.livejournal.com 2011-08-20 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
I still care about the other characters too, but Grell will always have a place in my heart :)

[identity profile] vethica.livejournal.com 2011-08-20 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
Hear hear. <3