[ SECRET POST #1726 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1726 ⌋


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Comments

Re: oh hell naw

[(Anonymous)]

does he have a penis

Re: oh hell naw

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you. He can identify as a man all he wants. He can look like a man, have the hormones of a man and all of that. But people need to stop acting like that means straight women who like the dick should automatically think of him as any other dude when it comes to relationships.

For some women (and some men), the real-life penis is important, and that doesn't make them bad people. Just incompatible with FTMs. Sorry if that hurts, but it's true.

Re: oh hell naw

[(Anonymous)]

lol oh you.

Re: oh hell naw

[(Anonymous)]

...Implying ftms don't (eventually) have penises?

wat.

Re: oh hell naw

[(Anonymous)]

stubby little penises

Re: oh hell naw

[(Anonymous)]

From a *practical* point of view I would agree with you, but from the point of view the OP is putting across...she is no more likely to ever be *intimate* with Chaz Bono that n with say...Johnny Depp or Daniel Craig. Having a crush and/or sexual fantasy about someone is not the same as being in a relationship.
Sorry but I just don't see your point...

Re: oh hell naw

[(Anonymous)]

That's true, but I suppose it's easier for OP to fantasize about men who (as far as we know) have penises, as opposed to those who don't. Some people need the ~whole package~ in their fantasies.

Re: oh hell naw

[singingrain5.livejournal.com]

That doesn't make them straight, then. It means they have a fetish for cocks. If you need a specific characteristic or mannerism, physical or not, to et your rocks off, that's a fetish. Being straight is being attracted to the opposite gender, and gender =/= physical organs.

Re: oh hell naw

[(Anonymous)]

lol at you

straight guys and gay/bi girls want vaginas
straight girls and gay/bi guys want penises
its not a fetish

Re: oh hell naw

[(Anonymous)]

Being straight is being attracted to the opposite gender, and gender =/= physical organs.

well technically, since straight = heterosexual = hetero + sex, it's being attracted to the same sex, not gender. of course, definitions change and adapt, and currently sexual orientation refers to the sex AND/OR gender you are oriented towards. some people like the gender and sex/sexual organs to match up. some people only care about gender. etc.

and a fetish is the need for any non-sexual organs. since a cock (or a vulva/vagina) is a sexual organ, someone who is oriented towards those is not automatically a fetishist.

Re: oh hell naw

[bloodrivendream.livejournal.com]

I sometimes wonder for how many straight/gay people it is actually about the gender and for how many it is about physical organs and for how many it is both.

Re: oh hell naw

[(Anonymous)]

OK I'm gonna have to disagree with this. Often people's orientation includes the physical aspect as much as the emotional. For many, sex is an important part of a relationship. So yes, a lack of penis would be a problem.

Wanting a penis isn't a fetish. It's just a part of one's orientation.

As a (trans)man...

[(Anonymous)]

I'm going to go with a well-said on this one. People can stop fawning all over me and defending my manly honor any day now.

Re: oh hell naw

[(Anonymous)]

He's a man. Not having a penis does not make him not a man.

Now if the OP had said something like "I am only attracted to men with penis that look like *enter particular style*", that would be one thing. But last time I checked people didn't go around demanding that potential romantic or sexual partners drop their pants before, you know, being attracted to someone.

What about someone who loses their penis somehow? Or the functionality of their penis? Are they no longer men?

Think before you start typing. Unless you intend to come off as a judgmental, ignorant little prick.

Re: oh hell naw

[(Anonymous)]

There's a difference between OP saying that she's normally not interested in transmen and her saying "but I'm a straight woman" though.

Re: oh hell naw

[(Anonymous)]

Re: oh hell naw

[(Anonymous)]

Whatever the state of his gentials (wow, creepy and invasive much?), not having a penis doesn't mean he's not a man.

Like you not having a brain doesn't mean you're not (unfortunately) a person.

Re: oh hell naw

[radges.livejournal.com]

As a trans male myself I find this really offensive. I mean if you truly like someone you won't care about their body. And Chaz is a man no matter what his biological body is. A lot of people still stay with their partners through their transition, just sayin'.

Re: oh hell naw

[(Anonymous)]

okay, look

i think chaz bono is def a man, op thinking he's attractive is not any less of a straight woman, etc.

but while it's great some people stay with their partners through transition, that's not possible for everyone. (and i'm pretty sure i've seen some cases where people stay with them, but it becomes more like a friendship, less sex, etc-- so it's not like the relationship never changes)

but when it comes to intimate sexual relationships (NOT simply attraction), sometimes bodies DO matter. saying "if you truly like someone you won't care about their body" imposes the following choices if you are gay/straight (or otherwise not interested/turned off by certain genitalia):

a) never have sex
b) have sex, but possibly not the type you desire (so as not to involve what turns you off)
c) force yourself to start getting turned on by something you're not attracted to
d) admit you don't love the person because of this ultimatum

not such fantastic choices.

i don't think it's transphobic to say "i am attracted to men AND penises/women AND vulvas." but it WOULD be fucked up and transphobic to say something like "i could never be attracted on the surface to a trans guy" or "i am attracted to men AND penises, and this person meets that criteria, but i totes can't date them because i know they haven't always met it."

Re: oh hell naw

[spam-27.livejournal.com]

And there's also been men and women to leave their relationships when their lovers get disfigured/find out they had plastic surgery/find out they are sterile/find out their credit is bad. People are often shallow. People have different experiences. People want different things. If the cock is important to her then it's important to her.

Re: oh hell naw

[(Anonymous)]

I sure hope you remember to tell cis men who happen to lose or have their genitalia injured to the point of removal that they aren't men. I'm sure they'll be very appreciative too.

Silly men, how dare you think that you are still a man if you don't have a penis for whatever reason. Tsk tsk.

Re: oh hell naw

[(Anonymous)]

they still had a penis

NEWSFLASH

[(Anonymous)]

The activity of sex is physical, so the physical bits matter. Attraction is not. Being attracted to someone you are pretty sure you don't want to bang is strange.

NOW SHUT UP.

Re: NEWSFLASH

[(Anonymous)]

eh, plenty of people can be attracted to someone on some level without wanting to have sex with them. but ia the physical bits mater to some people for sex.

Re: NEWSFLASH

[(Anonymous)]

Being attracted to someone you are pretty sure you don't want to bang is strange.

What? No it's not. There are plenty of people that I'm attracted to but don't want to have sex with. This is truly the weirdest comment I've read all day.