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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-15 03:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #1747 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1747 ⌋


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[identity profile] amethyst-rei.livejournal.com 2011-10-15 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not creepy, but it's effing annoying. Yeah, I get that the Wizaring world is small so there probably aren't a million options for potential partners, but c'mon! It's not that small.

Not everyone meets their life partner when they're fifteen and sixteen. I swear I expect half of them to divorce their respective partners after a few years.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-16 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
At least we know Luna (whats his face - Rolf?) and Draco didn't meet their partners at school. It's realistic IMO. Some meet them in school, some later on in life. I don't get the big deal.

[identity profile] amethyst-rei.livejournal.com 2011-10-16 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, Draco married Astoria Greengrass (sister of Daphne G, who was in Draco's year) who attended Hogwarts two years before Draco.

Luna is the only somewhat important side character (mentioned) who didn't marry an obvious Hogwarts student.

It's not something that would normally bother me, but seriously, most of the HP characters found their life partners when they were students.

-Lucius and Narcissa
-Draco and Astoria
-Arthur and Molly
-George and Angelina
-Ron and Hermione
-Bill and Fleur
-Neville and Hannah
-Harry and Ginny


...that's more than half of the main characters/important side characters and that's why it bugs me so much.

[identity profile] haro.livejournal.com 2011-10-16 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
Who are all these non-Hogwarts kids they're supposed to end up with then? Because uh, the vast majority of wizards and witches in the UK end up going to Hogwarts, so unless they marry out of country, the chance is really, really big that they're going to end up with someone they went to school with. It's just logistics.

[identity profile] amethyst-rei.livejournal.com 2011-10-16 08:16 am (UTC)(link)
My issue isn't that they all came out of Hogwarts. My issue is that they all apparently found their future spouses when they were still young. And yeah, I understand that there was a war going on so that probably had a lot to do with it ("carpe diem"), but it still irked. I very much believe that some people can can find the person they're "destined" to be with at a young age... but the majority of the important/semi-important chars in the HP series happened to find that special someone when they were young, and not only is that just seriously unrealistic, but boring as hell.

Here are some other examples:

-Lily and James
-Snape and Lily (Snape remained infatuated with his childhood friend for decades)
-Cho and Cedric (I have no doubt that they would have married had Cedric not died.)


So yeah, while I sort of understand that circumstances probably lead to so many of those...predicaments... it's still annoying.

[identity profile] haro.livejournal.com 2011-10-16 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
There are a ton of couples that didn't hook up at Hogwarts. Of the main cast, the only ones who actually did are Harry/Ginny, James/Lily, Arthur/Molly, and Ron/Hermione. Neville, Luna, George, Draco, Bill, Remus, Tonks, Cho, and a few others I'm sure I'm forgetting all ended up with people that they were not in relationships with at Hogwarts. Not to mention that while Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione ended up together, they ALL dated other people before that, so it wasn't a situation of being first relationship is true love.

That is really, really far from being a majority.

Cho and Cedric is not a viable example. You have no idea if they would have married. It's cool if you want to theorize that they would have, but there's nothing explicitly canon backing it. Cho lost her boyfriend, and she hadn't really dealt with loss before. JKR never portrays their relationship as true love forever. I think that is a massive, massive stretch. Cho actually ends up with a muggle anyway.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-16 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the epilogue was poorly written, but I don't think it's all that unrealistic. The wizarding world is consistently shown to be extremely socially conservative, as well as extremely small and insular. It causes a lot of trouble if people date out - "bit of a shock for him when he found out" - and, as other people have said, these bonds were forged in a war. I'm not saying they're the best possible pairings either, but you can pretty much imagine that most wizards want to marry in, and that even if the relationships weren't perfect, they characters would be very much about Making It Work.

[identity profile] etherealtsuki.livejournal.com 2011-10-16 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
This! I dunno about socially conservative but they were definite insular. I mean, regular Muggles are out of the question so your pool is going to be extremely small to start off and since there's like one Wizarding School in each country (if even although Hogwarts cover all of the UK and possibly Ireland), it's not unlikely to marry a person who went to school with at one point.

That said, the epilogue shouldn't happen though, it felt forced as hell.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-16 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Well, that's small-c conservative. They don't really seem to like change at all, you know? I mean, Muggles don't have to be out of the question, but I really can't see there being much reason to meet them and get to know them very well without issues arising.

The epilogue was a bit desperate, but it must have been the best thing she thought she could do for her fans. It would have been nicer as a web press release or something, but I think she'd rather it was there in print, so that every reader got to find out. It's just not how normal books end, so it felt pretty horrible.