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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-22 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #1754 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1754 ⌋


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[identity profile] streussal.livejournal.com 2011-10-22 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
While fandom seemed to dislike her in the first season, she's seemed pretty well-liked from what I've seen since then.

Dexter fandom is pretty sexist though - the amount of vitriol Rita and LaGuerta have received... Seriously, I checked the "Maria LaGuerta" tag on tumblr a few days ago, and ninety percent of it was about how much people hated her and/or wanted her to die. I love my career-climber :(

[identity profile] winter-ruins.livejournal.com 2011-10-22 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
LaGuerta goes through phases with me. I hated her in the first season, and I'm not really liking her in the current season, but I liked her in between.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-22 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you CAN actully dislike Rita and LaGuerta without being sexist... :/
I really found Rita weird, enabling and pretty dense at the beginning. What LaGuerta pulled in season 2 with her replacements boyfriend was just really low - as it would have been if she were a man, and she can bitch about the captain all she wants... she's just as bad, only without the flock of old male white guys to hang around with.

BUT... I'd REALLY started to like Rita from the 3rd season on, and I can appreciate LaGuerta as a character. I'd hate her with a passion though if she was a coworker or boss of mine. (and there really is something... fish-like about her face that's not really making her attractive.)

Now how anyone could hate Deb... I'm totally lost at that one. She's beautiful without having that Megan-Fox-appeal-to-the-masses-prettyface that's been flooding the movies and TVshows since the 90s, and her character development is absolutely great.
And I *love* her language.

[identity profile] megalomaniageek.livejournal.com 2011-10-22 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with this. Actually I liked Rita in the second season because she wasn't Lila, omfg.

[identity profile] zenity.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
This, so much

[identity profile] msloserrific.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh, I didn't realize how much I could deal with Rita until Vampire Tits showed up

[identity profile] judo-creature.livejournal.com 2011-10-22 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure you can dislike Rita and LaGuerta without being sexist. Buuuut I'm not so sure you can get mass hatred + a heavy majority of people wishing she would die without being sexist. I've been around the fandom block a few times, and while I'm sure such mass groups of hatred exist for choice male characters, 95% percent of the time I see them, they're for women, and they're pretty firmly rooted in misogyny.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-23 07:22 am (UTC)(link)
I think we're supposed to mostly dislike LaGuerta, so doing so doesn't necessarily mean you're sexist. The mass hatred for Rita, however, seems pretty misogynist because the complaints are always "she was naggy" or "she was a bad wife". Rita was devoted to Dexter and barely demanded anything from him, and he was a terrible husband. The few times she did confront him on his shit, she was pretty justified, and it's not fair to blame her for wanting a husband who was physically and emotionally present, and, you know, not a serial killer.

[identity profile] zenity.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
and there really is something... fish-like about her face that's not really making her attractive.

Thank you for putting into words what I couldn't figure out, oh god you're so right.

[identity profile] xizarx.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
I don't like LaGuerta. Like at all. But it's not sexism, since I've liked the rest of female characters in the series. Including Lila, in her own insane way. It's just LaGuerta and her actions that seem annoying to me.

Used to think Rita was too bland, but I grew fond of her. She's (was...) cute in a broken-doll way, but with more depth. Also, fuck it, not everyone has to be supre strong and a hero.

[identity profile] valenciapilgrim.livejournal.com 2011-10-23 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
I love Maria too. I think she's an amazing mirror-image of Dexter, the way she struggles so hard to be human...when the writers bother to give her anything even resembling a coherent storyline. They put us through that secret relationship with Angel (YAAAAWN) and *whatever* the hell that failure pile in a sadness bowl was that happened between them in season 5 - SO LAME.

Put me down as another vote on the "thinks Dexter is a TOTALLY sexist fandom" tally. So many fans (like my irl guyfriends who watch the show) have no respect for any character with a vagina, they just want to see **small season six spoiler*** Dexter get a blow job from a random chick, and go on (again, some more) about how OMG SO GREAT John Lithgow's performance was (yes, he was good, holy f'n shit, move on). And done forget to add Lumen to the the "female characters that fans love tear to bits" category.

PS I adore Deb. The scene season where she calmly warned a hissy-fit throwing Jordan Chase that he was going to get disappeared gave me chills.