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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-23 03:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #1755 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1755 ⌋


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 09 pages, 206 secrets from Secret Submission Post #251.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] dragonladyk.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Minimalist fic is like the "girl with a little curl" nursery rhyme: it's either fucking awesome or complete garbage. Not a whole lot of in-between mediocrity, I'm afraid.

DragonLady

[identity profile] loracarol.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Or watch him in the Bill and Tee movies.


I think he makes a good stoner. >_>

Re: Are there any men watching?

[identity profile] mondaisenshi.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, good! You're turning my disdain of people who contribute nothing to a conversation but a sarcastic remark into support for David's words when, literally, I didn't say ANYTHING positive about him. Moreover, you're doing so in a way that contributes nothing to the conversation but a sarcastic remark! What FUN this is! ♥

And yes, I do get along better with guys. What's your point? And why should any guys be impressed by my stance of neutrality in this debate?

I really, honestly fail to see where you're getting your current motivation to attack my words... Unless you're the giant-penis anon, or even the "reply to this comment" anon. But if that's the case, why am I still talking to you? God, this gets old.

[identity profile] mondaisenshi.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, we're done having a calm, intelligible conversation with arguable passive aggressive tones, now, are we? Shame, I was honestly hoping for a legitimate response.

[identity profile] dragonladyk.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I never got N'Sync, but this was the best troll-drail I've ever seen. ^^

DragonLady

[identity profile] mondaisenshi.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
... I don't see it...

... well... To each their own! Enjoy your Buddha eye candy.
xenoglossy: (d[di:] // Persephone)

[personal profile] xenoglossy 2011-10-24 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I love Bill & Ted, and I do think he works very well in it! But I think that's because the role doesn't require any great depths of emotion or anything.
ext_396211: Fucking Gallaghers (Tamara de Lempicka)

[identity profile] sensualcoco.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Your icon is killing me XD

[identity profile] loracarol.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly. :D

Image (http://s233.photobucket.com/albums/ee306/Loracarol/?action=view&current=bill-ted.gif)
ext_396211: Fucking Gallaghers (Default)

[identity profile] sensualcoco.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
agreed

[identity profile] fearless-rabbit.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
David is an ass but... really? You don't think it's possible for straight people to exploit queerness?

I mean, straight people writing about queers doesn't need to be exploitative, it can be mutually beneficial if you do it right, but it absolutely can be exploitative and has been done very very wrong, so. Seriously?

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm familiar with the tone argument, and I really wish people would stop accusing anyone who dislikes pointless inflammatory derailment of promoting it. I thought I had made myself clear, but I'll rephrase: I have no qualms about people getting rightfully angry about misogyny, I'm simply irritated by the pervasiveness of logical fallacies such as ad hominem. People have every right to get angry--it's a personal issue after all. I'm just tired of seeing threads which initially have arguments derail into insults and picking on people's grammar or perceived demographic (i.e. basement dwellers, children, what-have-you).

I didn't want to do this, but I think this in particular illustrates what I am trying to get at here:
http://fandomsecrets.livejournal.com/778156.html?thread=491504300#t491504300

[identity profile] fearless-rabbit.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
You are entirely right... but you are feeding a troll.

good post anyway tho~ <3

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Matt and Karen would be cute together, and I might even say I ship them... but people who get seriously obsessed over IRL ships creep me out. Obviously Matt's happy with Daisy, so who cares?

(I also hate people who are rude about Daisy.)

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Whoops, I should specify: I am merely referring to the very first exchange, not the exchanges with other users below.

[identity profile] june-miller.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. It is around 5.5 or 5.6. When it comes to the height of an actor, there are generally lies involved. Others short ones are Michael J. Fox (1.64, 1.65)and Tom Cruise. And you're not short, you're average.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not really sure where you got that from, but no, that is not at all what I was suggesting.

Initially this guy had an argument. Initially the other commenters had rebuttals, some of which involved calling him on his misogyny. This is not what I take issue with. I'm saying that I am annoyed when the arguments devolve because of logical fallacies and turn into an exchange of petty insults that have absolutely nothing to do with calling anyone out on misogyny at all.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
That makes sense, thanks for clearing that up.

[identity profile] judo-creature.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I like Unisexual Chauvinism Club, though.

[identity profile] lightofthevalar.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
THISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHIS
A THOUSAND TIMES YES

[identity profile] judo-creature.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
You discredit whatever argument you might have had by reducing yourself to petty, misogynist insults. Someone being obnoxious does not give you the right to automatically run to boxed assumptions about what kind of horrible, disgusting person a woman would have to be to have an opinion that disagrees with yours.

Basically, I'm saying, nothing in this comment is relevant to the conversation at all; resorting to insults instead of addressing anon's points is basically indicating that you've already lost, because you have nothing more of value to contribute.

[identity profile] otakugal15.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I still listen to the Backstreet Boys on occasion. I LOVE their songs. I don't care how cheesy they are or bad, I love them to pieces. XD

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure it's impossible to exploit a sexual orientation.

Sure, there are bad slash fans out there who write offensive stereotypes and are generally creepy and fetishistic about the whole thing. But that's not 'exploiting homosexuality' that's 'fetishizing homosexuality'. Slightly different.

[identity profile] zoey-says.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't say anything about Penny/Sheldon... I'm not too fond of bitter Penny (obviously I mean post-Leonard) and wouldn't want to see Amy end up the same way if a romantic relationship was to happen between her and Sheldon and it ended up going sour. So, I prefer their current non-relationship. Sorry, I thought the Penny/Leonard thing was implied. *shrugs*

(Anonymous) 2011-10-24 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
So... your problem with that comment is not that he's being a sexist, dismissive misogynist, but that he fell back on logical fallacies and ad hominem attacks and thus weakened his argument? And you think calling a woman a bitch and telling her to shut the fuck up and let the grownups (ie men) talk is just like people being angry and pointing out that someone's using the tone argument when others want them to just calm down and ~be reasonable~ when someone says something offensive?


... okay...?