[ SECRET POST #1755 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1755 ⌋


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 09 pages, 206 secrets from Secret Submission Post #251.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeats ]
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Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a woman and I think you're being an asshole. And waaaaay over the top.

[(Anonymous)]

just because you're a woman doesn't make your stanning for misogynist men ookay

[(Anonymous)]

lolwut

saying someone's being an asshole =/= stanning for the person they're arguing with

[(Anonymous)]

what makes them an asshole? the fact that they're telling this guy in no uncertain terms that he's a misogynist dipshit that should stfu about women's issues since he clearly has no idea what they're talking about?

[(Anonymous)]

It probably has something to do with the fact that I dared to insult a man. I mean, god forbid I call out a misogynistic douchebag.

[(Anonymous)]

I think he was being an idiot, but he didn't come across as overtly misogynistic.

Of course, this is the Internet where we're allowed to decide what other peoples' attitudes are based on, well, barely anything. But to be fair, anon might have dealt with this guy before, and have a history with him, I don't really know, so in light of that there may be something I'm not aware of going on.

[(Anonymous)]

I think he was being an idiot, but he didn't come across as overtly misogynistic.

Are you serious?

"I see that you are a bitch.

Let me give you a hint: The fact that you were unpopular in high school does not mean you have some sort of higher ground when it comes to being hilariously over-the-top batshit crazy to people on the internet.

In short: Shut the fuck up, grown-ups are talking."

Use of a misogynist insult, and talking down to someone that is annoyed by his implication that women 'exploiting' fictional characters is somehow more offensive than men exploiting real women. He's implying that it's childish to think his bullshit smells.

"The number of feminazis who just assume my penis makes me ignorant in this comm is staggering."

People who use the word feminazi in all seriousness are usually misogynists, because the term implies that advocating women's rights is similar to Nazism, because feminism 'threatens' the 'rightful place' of men - which is of course above women.

"I said both genders exploit each other for their own benefit. There's nothing sexist in that."

You could maybe argue that this is just ignorance about how privilege and oppression works, but this:

"You're from the "I'm fat and ugly, so men are evil" school of feminism aren't you?"

there is really no way to argue this isn't misogynist. Really, there isn't.

In short: you're either a troll or overly invested in defending misogynist behaviour. If it's the latter, you might want to do some introspection and think about why you feel it's so important to stand up in defense of men who are being sexist douchebags.

[(Anonymous)]

Er... what makes me an asshole? The part where I don't tolerate misogyny, or the part where I give as good as I get when insults start getting hurled around the schoolyard?

[(Anonymous)]

I just thought your reply was really over the top. Condescending, dripping in sarcasm, etc. and reading the whole conversation, it seemed like the guy in question was kind of an idiot but not necessarily misogynistic. Maybe he is - I don't know where he was coming from at all - but I don't think he said enough for anyone to determine what his underlying attitudes are.

[(Anonymous)]

She was dripping in sarcasm? Are you for fucking real? Did you even read his comments?

[(Anonymous)]

They both were, but he's already been called out on it - obviously. It's cyclical and escalated every time someone responded. But, yes, point taken.

[(Anonymous)]

"feminazi"

"you're from the I'm fat and ugly so I hate men school of feminism, aren't you?"

"bitch"


I think he said plenty to let us know in no uncertain terms he's a misogynist pile of shit.

[(Anonymous)]

Attacking one person doesn't necessarily mean he's attacking all women.

Let me be clear - I have no history with this guy, and don't know anything else about him. It seems to me that, while he's acting like an asshat, I don't have the kind of information I'd need to make that kind of assumption.

[(Anonymous)]

lol davidshephard quit stanning yourself and g2b like a good little troll

[(Anonymous)]

the terms feminazi and bitch are inherently misogynist

as is suggesting a feminist is 'just an ugly fat manhater'

hth

[(Anonymous)]

Well, "bitch" at least is a term I've heard directed at both men and women, and even though it's used mainly with women there are insults that are used mainly with men like "bastard" and "prick" so I don't really see the issue there.

"Feminazi" is a term I know very little about, other than hearing it used to refer to very militant feminists, rather than (again) women as a whole. And by "militant" I don't mean pushing the feminist agenda, but just sort of being jerks to anyone and everyone who doesn't agree with them. Every single political and social movement has those jerks.

As for the third - I thought that was just an insult to an individual? Not that it makes it okay, but it doesn't make it anti-feminist. Just because you label yourself as a feminist doesn't mean you are suddenly immune to shit. If a person called themselves, say, a Democrat, and another person said "well you're just a stupid and ugly Democrat", it wouldn't be a cool thing to say, but it's also not an attack against Democrats.

[(Anonymous)]

As the anon below pointed out, "bitch," "feminazi," calling a feminist an "ugly fat man-hater" and so on? All inherently misogynist. The first two are pretty gross slurs. And when you use a misogynistic slur? Yeah, you're being misogynistic towards women, as a whole. When you refer to a feminist as a "feminazi," you're being misogynistic and offensive to all feminists (not to mention anyone with enough of a brain and sense of decency to realize that comparing a women's rights movement to Nazis is insensitive and wrong). And anyway, if you're okay with using misogynistic slurs against one or two women, that still makes you a misogynist. It doesn't matter if you're attacking one woman or all of them, if you think those kinds of words and phrases are okay, you're a misogynist, and being a misogynist is an attack against women.

Got it now?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not interested in having a dialogue with anyone who is going to be condescending and self-righteous. Takes way too much energy tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

He was absolutely being misogynistic, as someone has kindly pointed out to you. He's a misogynistic piece of garbage, and I don't really feel obligated to treat him kindly.

I don't think I was so much being condescending to him as treating him like the vermin he and any other misogynist is. Anyway, I was just replying in kind to his tone when he told a woman who responded to his asinine sexism by telling her to go away because "the grown ups are talking," since he proved himself to have the maturity and critical thinking of an eight year old.

Got me?

[(Anonymous)]

Careful - you wouldn't want to be too judgemental now! Remember, you have to give people the benefit of the doubt even when there's nothing to doubt.

[(Anonymous)]

Of course, we musn't be rude to men! Why, that would be unthinkable, even when they're using misogynistic slurs and talking to us like we're children! How dare I! I should be more polite and considerate of sexist assholes. :( I should never, ever judge them. I mean, god forbid. Someone might think I'm one of those ~rabid feminazis.

[(Anonymous)]

I really don't have a response to this that won't result in you giving me the third degree. I am done; we will have to agree to disagree.

[(Anonymous)]

this is actually a little embarrassing

is there any way you can be more obvious davidshephard?

[(Anonymous)]

;_;

poor baby

so oppressed by those mean feminazi bitches

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

So, what you're saying is essentially that you have no defense for your attempt to downplay and disregard the obvious and gross sexism of the poster I was responding to. Maybe in that case you should reexamine why you think he wasn't being sexist despite the multiple misogynistic slurs ("bitch," "feminazi") he used.

And uh, gtfo while you're at it, because seriously, defending misogynists is fucking gross.