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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-24 07:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #1756 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1756 ⌋


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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-10-24 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
19. http://i.imgur.com/vZQIx.jpg

[identity profile] foxhound.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a terrible fan, I didn't even know about this.
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[identity profile] sensualcoco.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I love Elena as is, but yeah, I can see your point.

[identity profile] ariseishirou.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
How is the original design tomboyish? Because she has short hair? Lots of feminine women have short hair. I don't understand o_o
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Cause she's brunette? IDK. The old design is uglier IMO (her eyes are too close together), I guess OP thinks "ugly" = tomboy or something

[identity profile] ariseishirou.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think she's ugly. I think she's just as cute and feminine-looking as Elena, which is why this secret has me so terribly confused.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Of course they do, but come on, long hair is still a stereotypically female attribute.

Short hair is for boys, long hair is for girls. Switch that up and some people will still call you a tomboy/dyke or princess/fag.

[identity profile] ariseishirou.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
I.... guess so. I personally would never assume someone was butch just because she had short hair. Unless it was, like, shaved or spiked into a mohawk or something. Even then she might just be punk or goth.

[identity profile] ariseishirou.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
I'd also never assume a long-haired man was effeminate. If anything, only the manliest of men seem to want to grow their hair out.

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(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
I guess it depends on the guy. My mom is convinced half of the men in the posters on my wall are women. And hell, one of them is freaking Brad Pitt.

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Long hair can defs make a man look more femme.

[identity profile] philstar22.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
Is it wrong that I only find Brad Pitt appealing in pictures where he has long hair?

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
NGL, I do too. He's good looking with short hair, but it doesn't really do it for me. He's beautiful with long hair. My first ever crush <3
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Women with long hair can still wear their hair in a ponytail and look quite butch

There are also short haircuts that look very feminine (like pixie cuts and the like)

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
Probably because Elena herself is a fairly tomboyish character. (Tomboyish in the sense that she doesn't mind getting dirty and jumping around the jungle with Drake). So the short cropped hair and more gender neutral outfit of the original design would definitely give off "tomboy" vibes.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
She doesn't even have short hair, though. She has it up in a bun..?

[identity profile] matitablu.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Oooh, I didn't know about this. Still, idk - I think that part of the appeal of Elena is that she doesn't look like your obvious action girl, but she is competent and can keep up with Drake's crazy adventures. Also she's cute but they didn't go overboard with her, which is refreshing - actually I think her voice actress is more conventionally attractive than her and they toned that down in the design.

[identity profile] redknightalex.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Wasn't aware that there was an "average tomboy" out there. I'd like to know for statistical purposes.

But seriously, when I was a kid and had my father bring home Boy Scout patches for camping out in the winter when I was a kid, I had long hair and had more "adventures" than most young boys my age. Not to mention my mom was a tomboy with long hair as well and that never stopped her from doing what she wanted. When did hair become so important?

As for Elena, I think her character is more important than her design. She understands and complements Drake about as well as Sully does, who has been partners with Drake for years, and none of that has anything to do with her hair style. Seems like a small feature to get stuck over.

P.S. - What about Chloe?

[identity profile] justaminuet.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Except your looks don't dictate if you're a tomboy. And having your hair tied back (and brown) doesn't really state tomboy. Elena's personality wouldn't have changed, and that's what counts. Also, she's cute, but she's not what I would consider gorgeous. Chloe is designed to be the bombshell a helluva lot more.

[identity profile] neoyi.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't mind the brunette hair, but overall, I like Elena regardless of what she looks like. She's got a great personality and I really do enjoy her romance with Drake.

[identity profile] lashiec.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
Try Resident Evil Zero. Rebecca Chambers is probably what you're looking for.

Granted, it's hardly the best game in the series.

[identity profile] choffman.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 06:27 am (UTC)(link)
Uhhh... maybe it's just me, but other than Elena having brown hair and ugly bangs in the first version I don't really see how the character design has changed.

She still has long hair. You can see the bun/pony/whatever thing right there.