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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-10-24 07:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #1756 ]

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(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Corneas don't save lives and it wasn't by accident that I specified them. I don't have any particular objection to my other organs being used but I don't want my eyes fucked with when I'm dead. Yes (this is for childings) it's ~superstitious, but to be quite honest, I don't fucking care. It's my body and, as the laws currently stand where I live, I have some say over what happens to it.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
their donation enhances the lives of the living though. You aren't going to be needing them (where-ever you are going afterwards) so why be selfish? You could enhance someone's life, and at zero cost.

Me, I'm leaving my body to medical science (although if they can find any bits worth the salvaging they are more than welcome, most of my organs are shot though) and I hope I can do some good in death.

The laws need changing to prevent selfishness, and superstition, from impeding medicine and science.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
It wouldn't be at zero cost though. It would be at the cost of my happiness and peace of mind while I'm still alive, knowing how my body would be violated when I die.
ext_81845: image of the actor jean-pierre léaud holding a handgun (fuck you)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
You're dead, who cares
You won't know, you will cease to exist as a person, letting valuable parts of you go to waste

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Says the person who is claiming elsewhere in this discussion to believe in the existence of the human soul.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
The human soul has nothing to do with the body, though. Once you die your soul leaves your body and goes elsewhere. What does it matter what happens to your body then?

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(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
I know what we should do! How about since there are all of these people alive right now who have healthy organs and other people need organs, we take some of the healthy living people and kill them just to harvest their organs to benefit someone else. They'll be dead at that point so what does it matter that they might not have wanted to be killed for their organs? They ~won't exists anymore as people~ so it's not like it matters at all.

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(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Don't worry babe, you're not going to be better off than any of the other zombies just cause you kept your corneas after you died. HTH :)

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
I love this comment XD
I still hope it will slow her/him down a bit. Fast zombies are a pain in the ass!

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Its going to decay into mush after you die, horrible, stinking, oozing, foetid, pestilent, mush. How is having a piece of that meat and tissue cut away to help someone get a better quality of life, and ease their passage through the world a violation? That's actually an improvement on what will happen to the body. The perfection of your pretty eyes is going to be despoiled by cruel nature, so you aren't going to be preserving anything by not improving someone else's life.

Plus if you die of anything other than old age you'll probably get autopsied anyway.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Or I could be cremated. And if I die of anything other than old age, yeah, I'll probably be autopsied, but that probably won't involve my eyes being dissected.

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[identity profile] megalomaniageek.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
The laws need changing to prevent selfishness, and superstition, from impeding medicine and science.

No they don't, not at the cost of personal choice. Nobody is entitled to my body parts after I'm done using them. I can donate them or not as I choose. I, personally, choose to.
I think it might be better to change the law to default "yes" rather than to default "no" because most people don't care at all either way and will just go with the default. That in no way infringes on freedom of choice. But saying I can't choose to keep my own body whole when it's mine? No. It's mine and I decide what gets done with it.

[identity profile] corvigryph.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 08:08 am (UTC)(link)
+1 THANK YOU.

ext_81845: image of the actor jean-pierre léaud holding a handgun (fuck you)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Not being able to see sucks ass
I'm only near-sighted and that itself is annoying as shit. I can't drive a car, read a book, DRAW, do fucking anything without corrective lenses, so I can't even imagine how horrible my life would be if I needed new corneas

I'm glad you're okay with being a total asshole, but it doesn't make you special or cool

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
If I were a total asshole, I wouldn't be open to the idea of donating any of my organs, baby.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Really. "I'm donating some organs, so the fact that I won't donate this specific organ for some lame reason-that's-really-just-an-excuse doesn't make me an asshole!"

Wrong. You're still an asshole. Just a pedantical asshole.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
Trying to guilt trip a complete stranger into doing something they don't want to makes you the asshole, not them.

[identity profile] straydog733.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
*shrugs*
Cool cool. It is a weird and unnerving subject, so I will definitely not be one to discount the emotional response. I personally would put giving a living person eyesight over my wishes and squicks about my body, but it's everyone's own decision.

I grew up with knowing that when my grandfather died, his kidneys, liver and corneas were donated (his other major organs were too damaged), the rest of his body donated to a school for med students to practice on, then finally cremated for my mom/aunt/uncle to spread as they wished. The idea really appealed to me as a child, and it's stuck over the years. I had pretty much the most pro-organ-donation setting possible, but realize that not everyone did. While I hope you change your mind, more luck to you, and thanks for clarifying your point.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, please, continue to excuse your own selfishness. Go on then. Because really, fuck you. Fuck you and your excuse of being superstitious. Yes, why should we make the life of someone who is living better by giving them something you can't even use anymore -- don't worry, that makes total sense. Asshole.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, fuck you too. People like you make me feel like specifying I don't want to donate any of my organs, because I don't give much of a shit either way really but I hate other people feeling entitled to my body in any motherfucking context.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Seems like this person is willing to part with the rest of their organs though. They can keep their eyes if they want to, can't they? Or are we now in the business of telling people they're selfish fucks for not donating "enough"?

[identity profile] billybobfred0.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/charity.png

We've been in that business for a long time.

[identity profile] megalomaniageek.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
That comic is great.

(Anonymous) 2011-10-25 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
Calm down anon. It's for them to decide and it doesn't make them selfish if they don't so please stop with the guilt trip.

And technically, in some cases it still doesn't make their lives better since there is a huge chance of the body actually rejecting the organ. And the meds they put them on doesn't exactly make them feel all that better as well.

[identity profile] kathkin.livejournal.com 2011-10-25 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a weird squick with regards to donating corneas that I don't have for other organs. Heart/kidneys/whatever = fine. Corneas = oh god not my eyes. D: It's irrational and I'm pretty sure I made myself check the 'corneas' box last time I re-registered as an organ donor cause obviously they are in need of corneas and rationally I know it's not any different from donating any other organ, but that was my decision and no-one should be obliged to do it if they don't want to. Organ donation in general is not a moral imperative as far as I'm concerned.