[ SECRET POST #1818 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1818 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Comments

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

I've read canon, and I don't see where you get Sherlock/Irene. She was an opportunist who figured out how to ditch Holmes because he underestimated her based on her gender, and he was annoyed, surprised, and impressed by her actions. Pretty simple.

Now it's fine if you 'ship S/I for funsies, or even if you 'ship Sherlock/John. It's only when you drag canon into it to try to prove S/I is more "valid" than S/J, that I raise an eyebrow.

Bonus: It's "downright," not "down right."

[dunkle-feuer.livejournal.com]

Hello, new favourite person on the Internet! :-) With which I mean to say: YES! And: THANK YOU! Because that is what the story is about. There is no canon evidence for any shipping in any way in that story. And if Irene had been really interested in Holmes - in any other way than his intellect - why did she run off to get married then in the end?

Ship what you want, but please get your canon straight, people, and don't twist it for non-existence evidence to validate your preferred ship (no matter which ship!). Thank you! (this last paragraph is obviously not directed at you, OP)

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

To be fair, there's no express evidence in canon for S/J either - however, I'm willing to raise less of an eyebrow at those canon advocates than the S/I ones for a couple of reasons. First, Holmes and Watson are in over like 50 stories together (or is it closer to 30? I need to dig out my books and look again), and there's more to examine at least for them. Also, scholars have debated for decades if Conan Doyle intended a gay subtext ... so at least an S/J 'shipper knows they're not crazy for seeing *something* there.

Of course, again, none of this should impede a 'shipper's fantasies in fandom. OP, if you want to get your righteous feminist anger on over fanon, go for it; but don't rely on canon to fight this shipwar, and - for the love of Susan B. Anthony - QUIT USING A RELATIONSHIP TO VALIDATE A FEMALE CHARACTER FOR RESPECT. Your argument should have fuck-all to do with slash; it should demand she not be bashed in fanon, period.

tl;dr - If OP has actually read all of "Scandal," I'll eat Mr. Barrie's wig from my icon, there. My digestive system feels pretty safe.

(And, thank you, fellow commenter.)

[fenm.livejournal.com]

First, Holmes and Watson are in over like 50 stories together (or is it closer to 30? I need to dig out my books and look again

There are 60 stories all together; fifty-six short stories and four books. Granted, Holmes actually did have a few solo stories he narrates himself ("The Devil's Mane" comes to mind), but saying "50 stories together" it pretty accurate. (-:

[veronica-rich.livejournal.com]

OK, thanks for looking it up! :-)

[fenm.livejournal.com]

No problem!