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[identity profile] stella-down.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
wait, the 90s are cool now? why wasn't I aware of this?

[identity profile] checkerblob.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
lol, I take it you've never been on tumblr. Basically, every teenager has decided that everything nowadays sucks and the 90's were a golden age of culture, particularly TV, particularly cartoons.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-27 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
And when I was young, the 80's were the golden age of culture, particularly TV, particularly cartoons. Now just think what will happen when suddenly the 00's are the golden age of choice. SHITTY EMO MUSIC WILL RISE FROM THE GRAVE.

Fashion is just on a different cycle. The 70's were popular. The 80's have come back. The 90's will coincide with the next bit...and so on.

My crappy cyclical theory on youth culture is...eeeehhhh....

[identity profile] megalomaniageek.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
Crappy theory or not, it's MFTE. I still hear the Cracked folks talking about shitty 80s cartoons like they were the height of culture because they're about ten years older than the 90s crowd (of which I am a part). I feel a lot of nostalgia for the 90s too but I think people make a bigger deal of it than necessary. I think cartoons DO go through up periods and down periods, but we're currently in a big upswing as far as I'm concerned. Adventure Time, My Little Pony, Phineas and Ferb, and a number of other cartoons are widely regarded as legitimately good.

Part of it is that some people don't have enough self-awareness about their reactions to cliches. You know what sounded really original the first time you heard it? Just about everything. So things that older people look down on as cliches because of the boredom and frustration that comes from predictability, younger people with less experience are legitimately surprised and impressed by. You see this also in Final Fantasy fandom; if you tell me a person's age, I can give a pretty decent guess about what Final Fantasy was their favorite based on which one was at the height of popularity when they were 10-12, weighted toward more famous and well-loved ones (IV, VI, VII, and X mainly). I'm in the VII camp, and some part of me still sees the X people as "young whippersnappers new to the party" even though the game is ten years old (and yes I know it's ridiculous). But I've seen X fans who look down on the new PS3 generation just for being new, and the entire time I've been in fandom I've been dealing with the IV and especially VI fans who look down on the VII crowd and the X crowd for the same reason.

tl;dr A little pattern recognition goes a long way.

[identity profile] hiyami.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 10:08 am (UTC)(link)
I'm from the generation that watched cartoons in the 80es, and I think the ones from that era still top those from the 90es and the 2000es and now.
But that's because I always thought most US cartoons sucked anyway, and my reference is anime from the 80es and the cartoons that were co-produced between Japan and Europe (Cities of Gold, for example).

As of nowadays cartoons, I can't get over how ugly the art looks, for most of those I know... (I didn't see MLP, but that's not my cup of tea anyway).

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(Anonymous) 2011-12-27 08:43 am (UTC)(link)
I remember hearing someone say, when we entered 2010, that the 90s would become the cool "retro" decade because that's usually whatever was 20 years before. I had never realized that before but it totally seems true to me. I guess we're doomed to repeat this forever.

[identity profile] royalbk.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)
And when I was young, the 80's were the golden age of culture, particularly TV, particularly cartoons. Now just think what will happen when suddenly the 00's are the golden age of choice. SHITTY EMO MUSIC WILL RISE FROM THE GRAVE.

I laughed so hard at the last sentence.

YOU FORGOT TO ADD THAT JUSTIN BEIBER WILL BE HOTTEST THING EVER!

how could you, anon?

XP

(Anonymous) 2011-12-27 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
And when I was young, the 80's were the golden age of culture, particularly TV, particularly cartoons. Now just think what will happen when suddenly the 00's are the golden age of choice. SHITTY EMO MUSIC WILL RISE FROM THE GRAVE.

I sort of hope I can cryogenically freeze myself to sleep past the decade where we relive the 00's.

[identity profile] starphotographs.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Hell, if things keep going the way they're going, I might just have to take a rain check straight in to the decade after THAT. D:

Here's to some big turnaround before 2020? XD
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
TBH I thought the 90s were pretty cool back in the 90s
It was kind of awesome when everyone in my family had a job and I had health, vision and dental care and yeah, kids' programming (particularly programming aimed at girls) was of better quality than it is now

I'm in my late twenties so yeah, I was old enough to remember

[identity profile] zenity.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
This.

[identity profile] dgcatanisiri.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
It also seemed happier back then. I mean, I've seen some nineties music videos recently and there are so many more smiles and positive statements coming through them. I mean, sure, I enjoy my *motions to icon* cynicism and all, but sometimes I do miss that more upbeat attitude that in general people seemed to have.

[identity profile] kryss-labryn.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
It was a pretty good time. I was in college then, and starving-- but the Cold War had ended and the threat of instantaneous nuclear annihilation of the entire planet that had been hanging over us for my entire life had ended, the economy was up, the Berlin Wall was down, Russia was now a democracy-- and we didn't know how bad the environment was getting yet. Sure, we knew about the rainforests, but no one really thought the entire ecosystem of the whole planet was on the verge of collapse. We were just beginning to do amazing things with DNA, we were gonna unlock the human genome and that was gonna cure everything from cancer to acne.

It really was an extremely positive time, looking back at it.

[identity profile] feanorian.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
This. Plus, if you were American, you could mostly trust the government, travel was easy, and the country was untouchable. If you were in a tech-savvy area, the Internet was just getting interesting and so many new things were in the works.

I can see why people would want the 90s back.

[identity profile] starphotographs.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 08:05 am (UTC)(link)
This!

And you know, maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but it seems like there was more interest in the space program back then. Now it seems like they've just sort of let it rot. Bah. :\
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Well obviously this isn't true for the entire world, but it seemed like a lot of countries were doing better economically back then, so it was easier for people to be happy. Especially compared to everything that has happened in the last decade. So it's understandable.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-27 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
I like to think of it as the decade America stuck its head in the sand and pretended that just because the Cold War was over all the shit that it did everywhere else was forgotten, too.

[identity profile] gabzillaz.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 11:48 am (UTC)(link)
I noticed the same thing.

[identity profile] stella-down.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
dude, don't get me wrong, I love the 90s to an embarrassing degree. I just didn't realize that was acceptable now. maybe I can start wearing flannel and Docs and berets again. :D
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Well you know what they say about everything old being new again
Also fashion works in twenty year cycles

[identity profile] sweetgreens.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
Do it! As lj user="childings" pointed out, fashion really does move in 20-year cycles.

I'm a 90s teenager, and my family was too poor to afford to buy me any of the popular styles, so I wore 1970s retro items that I had thrifted (before thrifting was as common a pastime as it is now). Most of my classmates agreed that I was one of the most chic and fashionable girls at school! :D

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[identity profile] starphotographs.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 08:01 am (UTC)(link)
*side-eyes boots and flannel shirts*

Um...

What was I supposed to be wearing before? XD (Probably something that is too cold/hurts my feet. FUCK THAT SHIT.)

(Anonymous) 2011-12-27 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
This. I mean, I still remember the Pepper Ann episode about Women's Rights, and Pepper Ann's attitude of 'Wait, why wouldn't I be able to be president?'. Looking back on it, Pepper Ann would be about my age now and we had a women almost make it into the White House. By the time Peppy 9s 40 we probably will have a women in the White House. But at the same time, the whole thing so fully captured my own perspective when a kid and now I can't help but wince at how naive and how extremely positive it was.

But if you think about it, those shows were major breakthroughs. Friends were not all of one race and gender, Pepper Ann's mom was a divorced single mom and awesome and Arnold's parents were dead and was being raised by his grand father. We got messages of indiviuality, of caring for others, of how it was ok to be different. To dream big, to fight for what you believe in (anyone else remember that episode where Arnold and his friends protested the tree being bowled over by Helga's Dad?).

Sure, they had there issues. But I feel like you really can't compare shows like Phineas and Ferb to them. It has great music, yeah... but IDK. It just seems like the 90's rocked when it came to cartoons.

...The fact that these shows still impact me today, and that I still love them, says a lot I think. Which reminds me, I still need to buy the Recess movie...

[identity profile] broadwaybabe11.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Aww, I love this comment. It makes me feel so nostalgic. I was only a little kid in the 90s, early elementary school years, but I remember watching and loving those shows.
They really were so positive. I love that about them.
We grew up with Pepper Ann. The kids now will grow up and remember Bella Swan >.>

[identity profile] starphotographs.livejournal.com 2011-12-27 07:57 am (UTC)(link)
I know, right? XD Color me surprised.

Leave it to me to be so out of touch with 21st century life that some kind of huge 90s revival flies right over my head. :P