[ SECRET POST #1832 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1832 ⌋


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

While I agree with the above posters that high school can suck etc etc, am I the only one who feels uncomfortable about OP's reasoning for not shooting up and killing everyone in the school is 'I don't want to go to jail'? As opposed to, y'know, shooting up and killing everyone in the school is a fucking psycho thing to do that the word 'immoral' doesn't even begin to cover?

[(Anonymous)]

it depends on how the op is meaning it, and how old the op is. if the op is being literal, "I won't do this thing because I will be punished," then it's moral reasoning on the level of a child, which can be psychologically normal well into the teenage years.

if the op is actually trying to communicate the idea of "I won't do this thing because it is illegal, as evidenced by jail being a punishment for it," then it's actually pretty average adult moral reasoning and a lot of people never "progress" past it because higher levels of moral reasoning are unnecessary to function as an adult in society.

tl;dr so i herd u liek laurence kohlberg's stages of moral development

[omorka.livejournal.com]

. . . So I put a social contract in ur Heinz dilemma so u could promote teh greatest good for teh greatest #? ;-)

[angelus7988.livejournal.com]

if the op is actually trying to communicate the idea of "I won't do this thing because it is illegal, as evidenced by jail being a punishment for it," then it's actually pretty average adult moral reasoning and a lot of people never "progress" past it because higher levels of moral reasoning are unnecessary to function as an adult in society.

I think that holds true when the majority of people only need to follow the rules, rather than have any say in establishing what the rules are. On the other hand, if your average person is going to have any say in that, there needs to be a higher level of moral reasoning. Sorry, random observation.

[megalomaniageek.livejournal.com]

Yeah I gotta tell you something:
When you're living in an abusive situation sometimes the only thing keeping you from literally murdering your abuser is the fear of going to jail.
I do not condone school shootings because they almost always include the injury or death of innocents, and most bullying would not warrant a penalty of death by any reasonable person. It would always be better if abuse and bullying victims had non-violent effective resources that could help them, and if those abusers and bullies were rehabilitated to not harm people and use coercion and violence to control others. But when you're a helpless victim and authorities won't help you, and there's no non-violent way to protect yourself from harm (because if there was you would fucking take it), your mind wanders to violence. This does not make that victim a bad or violent person.

[dorknessrising.livejournal.com]

+1. There's something to be said for the tendency of moral consideration to fly out the window on a jet pack when you're living in near-constant fear for your own safety.

[(Anonymous)]

There's a difference between fantasizing about killing your abusers, actually killing your abusers, and admitting that you would kill hundreds or even thousands (depending on how big OP's school is) of innocent people along with your abusers if you could do so without getting caught.

OP isn't saying she would only kill her abusers. I could easily understand that. She said she would blow up her WHOLE SCHOOL. That's just alarming.

[(Anonymous)]

BFD, I would have said the same in my day. I had a very elaborate plan to do exactly that, not that I ever would have gone through with it, I just knew how to go about it. The key thing is in fantasy you don't have to give a fuck about collateral damage and death toll. We don't arrest people for thought crimes just yet.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay except this person was saying she would actually do it, not just that she's fantasizing about it.

[(Anonymous)]

Nope. Pretty sure that "if I had telekinesis" keeps things strictly in the realm of fantasizing…

[(Anonymous)]

The point is this kind of thought process is not cool.

[(Anonymous)]

She said the only reason she's not shooting everyone up for real is because she doesn't want to go to jail.

[(Anonymous)]

a-fucking-men to that, as someone who has spent the vast majority of their life in just such a situation.

[(Anonymous)]

This! My high school years were a living hell. I was bashed, spat on, humiliated, called every offensive slur the bullies could think of, etc. One girl even attempted to set my hair on fire in the girl's bathroom. Did the teachers give a crap? Of course not! Some of my bullies were their favorites so they ignored any bad thing that their "favorites" did to others! And the only thing the police ever did was talk to the school during assembly about how bad bullying is. Yeah, real helpful.

I used to go to bed at night wishing that their houses would be hit my meteors. Or that they would all wake up dead. One of my bullies actually did die of an asthma attack during the final year of school, and the relief I felt for the rest of the year was fucking amazing. I know it sounds horrible, but I don't care. It was nice having the bullies cry over their "BFF" dying instead of picking on me for a change.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't blame you. I'm glad your final year was better.

[tigerdreams.livejournal.com]

This right here. x1000.