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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-13 07:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #1837 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1837 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02. [broken link]


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[Robin Of Sherwood/Michael Praed]


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[Glee]


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[We Got Married - Ga In (Brown Eyed Girls)/Jo Kwon (2AM)]


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[Buzz Lightyear of Star Command]


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09. http://i.imgur.com/8DbqS.png
[linked for nudity/kind of porny]


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[Josh Groban and Andrea Bocelli]


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[Beast Wars, Megatron]


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[Magic Mike]


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[Harry Potter & Little House on the Prairie]


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[X-Men: First Class]


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[Death Note]


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25. [SPOILERS for something, OP did not specify]



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26. [SPOILERS for Vampire Hunter D]



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27. [SPOILERS for Christmas Doctor Who and New Year's Sherlock]



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28. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]
[SPOILERS for Loveless]



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29. [TRIGGER WARNING for abuse]



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30. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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31. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, animal cruelty]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #262.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] kanjo-girl.livejournal.com 2012-01-14 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
Unpopular opinion, but I think Ariel was a very rebellious daughter. She would constantly disobey her father, who was trying to protect her from humans, who killed his wife and mother of his children.

I'm not justifying what he did in destroying all her precious, human findings, but I think he was reaching a breaking point. It's obvious in the movie she had shown that behavior before and he ran out of patience and was extremely shocked she would collect human things like treasures. Maybe he saw it as a betrayal because these awful humans killed his wife and now his daughter has taken a liking to them.

IDK. I'll be attacked. I know it. But that's what I thought. Even when I was five/six as I watched the movie, I didn't like Ariel and what she did. I respect everyone and their opinions. That's just mine.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-14 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
tbh I agree

(Anonymous) 2012-01-14 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
It is canon fact, and displayed time and again in this movie alone, that Triton had a short temper. The fact that he reacted so violently to harmless collection of mysterious things she was curious about--things that fell into the sea, so she wasn't necessarily going up to humans!--is what's frightening. What would he have done if he'd found out she saved a human's life because his ship was wrecked in a storm? He could have easily hurt her physically in his temper.

[identity profile] kanjo-girl.livejournal.com 2012-01-14 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know, I don't really buy the fact that she was innocently 'curious'. Ariel knew it was something her father hated and knew the items belonged to humans, a race that killed her mother.

I don't believe he should have ever reacted they way he did. But that doesn't mean he is abusive to me. He associates humans in the death of his wife, so those strong, repressed feelings probably came out.

That doesn't mean he's ever hurt Ariel before and would ever hurt her physically and purposefully. I don't buy that. But that's only because of what I think, not disregarding. I agree he has a short temper, but guessing by Ariel's immediate reaction, he hasn't ever done anything like that before.
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[identity profile] insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com 2012-01-14 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Harmless?

Lets imagine your a black man who's wife has been murdered by the clan.

You discover your Daughter has a shed with a shrine to David Duke, and when you find it in there she's talking to a live sized statue about the life they are going to have together.

That's what Triton saw. He showed RESTRAINT.

DA

(Anonymous) 2012-01-14 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
...Yes. Because a fictional father destroying his daughter's stash of inanimate objects is comparable to racism. Way to go, dumbass.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-14 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
For the sake of argument, isn't Triton racist (well, really speciesist) though?

[identity profile] insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com 2012-01-14 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
No argument. But what he felt was largely true.

Humans were savage murderers, killers of sentient beings to eat their flesh.

In that particular world, how was he wrong?

(Anonymous) 2012-01-14 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
O_O Wow, this comment...

I mean, isn't that kind of... NOT the point of the whole movie, though? Instead of David Duke, I think the more appropriate analogy would be a random white guy your daughter talked to in a bar one day or something. The point of the movie was, Ariel was curious about a world not her own and fell in love with a kind-hearted member of that world. Triton blew up because he thought all (in your analogy, white) men were savage heartless murderers because of what happened with his wife.

From Triton's POV, Ariel might well have been idolizing a "David Duke" but the whole lesson Triton had to learn was that he was WRONG in his thinking.

[identity profile] insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com 2012-01-14 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Prince Eric was a man in or about to recieve power power. In a seaside kingdom. Where he was actively involved in the fishing process.

Eric in fact was actively participating in the systematic hunting and death of people in Triton's kingdom.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-14 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
If we're counting fish and other sea creatures about 90% of Triton's Kingdom was actively participating in the systematic hunting and death of people in Triton's kingdom.

[identity profile] loracarol.livejournal.com 2012-01-14 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I don't think the two events are really that best way to compare things. One one hand, you have the black daughter has a shrine to a know KKK member, out of all the white guys that exist in the world. On the other hand, you have Ariel in love with a random human, without any sort of reason for us to believe he's evil and hates all mermaids and kills them for shit and giggles. IMO a better analogy would be if the dad found the daughter had a shrine to a random white guy, and he flipped out, because, as far as he knows, while white guys killed his wife, this particular guy has done nothing wrong but be "wrong".

[identity profile] insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com 2012-01-14 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Dinnertime at the palace should have cleared that up. Odds are good Sebastian knew somebody on one of those plates.

Poor Sebastion. Forced to literally hide in the corpses of his fallen brothers.

[identity profile] loracarol.livejournal.com 2012-01-14 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but on the flip side, how many humans were privy to the knowledge that fish/crabs/etc. were actually as sentient as people? It was something the mermaids knew and hated humans for, whereas the humans probably had no clue. I can't really fault them for that. :/

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[identity profile] fauxfaia.livejournal.com 2012-01-14 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
I can't

[identity profile] zombieroadtrip.livejournal.com 2012-01-14 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
Eric = David Duke the same way anyone who eats meat = serial animal torturer. In other words, no.
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[identity profile] keire-ke.livejournal.com 2012-01-14 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Um... but he did find out. That's why he was angry. Sebastian told him Ariel was in love with a human, that she saved the human from drowning and took him to the shore. He didn't go destroying her collection because it was Tuesday, but because she crossed a line he set (which, while extreme, is understandable, it's not like "hey, stay down where you have freedom of mobility, because on land you are nigh-helpless" smacks of unreasonable).

(Anonymous) 2012-01-14 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
Agree x100000000. Has no one had a parent who reacted rashly before? Triton wasn't perfect, and he overreacted, and he was wrong, something it's obvious he knows when she swims away and he realizes what he's done, and something he realizes at the end when he changes her. It doesn't make him abusive, it makes him, for lack of a better term, human and capable of emotion.

[identity profile] dgcatanisiri.livejournal.com 2012-01-14 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with you about the whole 'breaking point' thing. I know that the movie was made and produced before the TV series, but didn't Triton uncover her hidden caches a couple of times over the course of it, causing her to start all over again?

[identity profile] kanjo-girl.livejournal.com 2012-01-14 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
I hardly watched the show, TBH. As a child, I didn't enjoy Ariel much. So maybe that can just play into the fact that he really was at a breaking point and he was really tired of what she was doing.

But IDK. I didn't see much of the series except for an adorable episode where Ariel frees a baby killer whale.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-14 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
sort of off topic, but I really like your icon! It actually made me go on deviantart to see if there was any kaldur/ariel art, and the first thing that popped up belonged to you! it's very cute btw

[identity profile] kanjo-girl.livejournal.com 2012-01-14 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
Image

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First of all, thank you. But does that mean you're on board the crazy crack ship of Kaldur/Ariel? :D

I'm pretty crazy when I get devoted to a ship. I even wrote fanfiction for them. I'm insane. But it's the good insane. Promise.
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(Anonymous) 2012-01-14 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. Triton wasn't some overprotective modern father who couldn't stand the idea of his baby being tarnished by a boy. He was someone who had lost the mother of his children to humans, and who had a daughter who repeatedly showed a disregard for responsibility and her own safety. What he did was extreme and the breaking point for Ariel, but I think he wanted to make it very clear to her that her hero-worshipping the race that had killed his wife was not something he was going to encourage.

[identity profile] sairei.livejournal.com 2012-01-14 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with this entirely, SO SO SO MUCH!!

[identity profile] gabzillaz.livejournal.com 2012-01-14 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
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