[ SECRET POST #1837 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1837 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02. [broken link]


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03.
[Robin Of Sherwood/Michael Praed]


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04.
[Glee]


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[We Got Married - Ga In (Brown Eyed Girls)/Jo Kwon (2AM)]


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[Buzz Lightyear of Star Command]


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09. http://i.imgur.com/8DbqS.png
[linked for nudity/kind of porny]


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[Josh Groban and Andrea Bocelli]


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[Beast Wars, Megatron]


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[Magic Mike]


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16. [repeat]


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[Harry Potter & Little House on the Prairie]


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[X-Men: First Class]


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[Death Note]


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[ ----- SPOILERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]












25. [SPOILERS for something, OP did not specify]



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26. [SPOILERS for Vampire Hunter D]



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27. [SPOILERS for Christmas Doctor Who and New Year's Sherlock]



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[ ----- TRIGGERY SECRETS AHEAD ----- ]












28. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]
[SPOILERS for Loveless]



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29. [TRIGGER WARNING for abuse]



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30. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape]



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31. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, animal cruelty]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #262.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

29.
http://i.imgur.com/0eQfP.png

[loracarol.livejournal.com]

I'd run so hard. (Well, swim, but you know what I mean.) That scene is just friggen scary.

[supesy.livejournal.com]

I like to not associate this scene with the rest of the movie, and I've been keeping it that way since I was just a young chap.

LOL WHAT A HORRIFYING SCENE THAT WAS

Till this day, it still makes me uneasy.

[checkerblob.livejournal.com]

This.

[tasogare-n-hime.livejournal.com]

Agreed 100%. That scene always terrified me as a kid, and was for me has the #1 reason for Ariel running away. I still have to skip that scene if I watch the movie.

[loracarol.livejournal.com]

You too?

/metoo

[xelestri.livejournal.com]

It explains some, but she had six sisters who presumably loved her too, and she was still willing to toss them aside to go chase after Eric, who she knew literally nothing about, except that he loved sailing. I mean, I can understand wanting to get away from a father who trashes all your shit (believe me, can I), but not so much the "running off with a total stranger" part.

[childings.livejournal.com]

She didn't seem all that close to her sisters in the movie to me
I mean, I have three sisters and I'm only really close to one of them (and I really can't stand the oldest one, we don't get along at all)

[(Anonymous)]

Having other family members that you care about (unless they are minor children or otherwise not competent to make their own decisions) does not obligate you to take them with you when you attempt to escape an abusive situation.

She knew that Eric seemed nice and lived very far from her father, in a world she'd always been fascinated by anyway. That was enough.

[(Anonymous)]

Man, I related to this scene so hard. I can't watch really watch it now, but I understood it so much. My father only destroyed my things once - I was not abused* and I know I did not deserve the extent of that particular punishment but I still remember standing there screaming and crying as he tore pages out of my books. If I had had the means and the ability to I would have run the fuck away too, despite the fact that I loved my family because that was my shit that you destroyed, jackass!

In conclusion, aha, pardon my vent.

[childings.livejournal.com]

I don't get why anyone wouldn't understand Ariel running away from that. Though since the movie is so short, I always wondered if Triton was typically that abusive or if he just really lost his temper and flew off the handle in that one scene. Not that it would excuse his behavior, though

[kanjo-girl.livejournal.com]

Unpopular opinion, but I think Ariel was a very rebellious daughter. She would constantly disobey her father, who was trying to protect her from humans, who killed his wife and mother of his children.

I'm not justifying what he did in destroying all her precious, human findings, but I think he was reaching a breaking point. It's obvious in the movie she had shown that behavior before and he ran out of patience and was extremely shocked she would collect human things like treasures. Maybe he saw it as a betrayal because these awful humans killed his wife and now his daughter has taken a liking to them.

IDK. I'll be attacked. I know it. But that's what I thought. Even when I was five/six as I watched the movie, I didn't like Ariel and what she did. I respect everyone and their opinions. That's just mine.

[sarolynne.livejournal.com]

I don't know the fact it's scary made it abusive. I always felt like it captured really accurately the way a child responds to a parent getting table flipping mad.

You're right in that that scene really sets up Ariel leaving, and it bothers me how people belittle Ariel's choices when it's essentially a story about growing up and leaving home. I mean, don't most people eventually leave a perfectly loving family. It's kind of literal minded to read it as just a girl running away from home for a boy. Especially when that girl is, you know, a mermaid. But I don't know that I call that scene abusive so much as it seemed like all the conflict that goes with growing up condensed into one scene for the sake of a Disney length movie--the same way the story condenses a lot of aspects of growing up, like wanting freedom or discovering her G-rated sexuality.

[(Anonymous)]

I never saw this scene as abusive, but it does remind me of the few times my parents lost it around my brother and I. Both are ex-military, and their voices when yelling out of pure anger still haunt me when I think about it.

[(Anonymous)]

I get that it's a Disney movie and Ariel's the heroine so we're supposed to take her side, but seriously? Triton was not a bad or abusive father. Ariel was his favorite and he doted on her constantly. He allowed her a LOT of freedom, wouldn't hear a word against her, was delighted to hear she'd fallen in love, etc.

He was understandably frustrated because whenever he tried to discipline her for doing stupid/dangerous things, as a parent should, she just ignored him or sweet-talked her way out of it. She also KEPT disobeying him, shirking from her responsibilities, ditching her chaperone and getting herself into danger because she felt like it. He dealt with it as best he knew how, but when he saw her collection, it was the last straw. He'd been telling her he didn't want her to be caught in a net or harpooned or smashed to death by a boat, or to endanger their entire society by being noticed, and here she is surrounded by evidence that she'd risked her life thousands of times to collect the possessions of Very Dangerous Predators.

It's not a great analogy, but imagine your teenage daughter is sneaking into a meth lab and collecting crack pipes and needles and dirty condoms because she thinks it's ~mysterious~, and one day you find her sing-songing in a secret room lined with this shit about how she's going to marry the dealer? How the hell do you process that with anything but rage and horror? Yes, he lost his shit, yes he yelled at her and broke her things, and that wasn't the best way to handle it. But he didn't hurt her, he didn't debase her worth in any way, he told her why he was punishing her, and he felt remorseful about it afterward. That's NOT abuse. That's decent parenting.

[(Anonymous)]

Ruining someone's stuff is a really shitty thing to do. But does it count as abuse? It really seemed like the only time he did it. They were having an argument and he overreacted. But the end it's just things. They weren't even really hers, she just found them.

[(Anonymous)]

Like others, I'm not sure I'd count this as abuse. (Does anyone have a definition of abuse? The concept gets fuzzier to me the more I try to think about it.)

But I certainly think it counts as trauma, and I think Ariel was entirely justified in running away. I REALLY don't get the whole "Ariel is an ungrateful brat who left her loving family for a man!" Uhh did we watch the same movie.

I think the whole point of the movie is that Ariel and Triton had two DIFFERENT perspectives; they didn't see eye-to-eye. Of the two, I would have to say Triton was more in the wrong because he was (1) close-minded, and (2) actually took actions that hurt his daughter. In the end he realizes he didn't understand how much his daughter loved humans and the human world and learns how to admit he's wrong, how to make it up to his daughter, and how to say goodbye to her. It's really very touching.

[(Anonymous)]

I swear I've seen this secret reworded differently at least three times on here.

[lovelycudy.livejournal.com]

I don't think it was abusive though it was really terrifying. Triton was worried about his child and didn't know how to handle it. I think the point was that he was wrong for dismissing Ariel's feelings?

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen this movie so many times and I didn't even know what this secret was referring to until I read the other comments. I think it's honestly interesting how some people can't even re-watch the scene, yet for others (ie, me) it didn't leave so much as a lasting impression. The human mind, y'all.

[smittenlotus.livejournal.com]

This. I felt bad for his other daughters too.

I think this is more an argument for Ariel running away though, as opposed to just leaving and sacrificing everything to get Eric.

[johnjie.livejournal.com]

I actually hyperventilated the first few times I saw TLM because it's exactly how my father acts when he's angry (except with more hitting of kids) and it just freaked me the fuck out

[aoi-hikari-ai.livejournal.com]

...Hm. In response to a lot of the comments here about how Triton is acting towards Ariel due to what happened to his wife/her mother...

Do they mention in the actual movie that Ariel's Mom died by humans? I can't remember that at all... that was just in the Disney prequel, wasn't it?

I love how people will go on about hating the Disney sequels/prequels and will go THAT'S NOT CANON!!! but if they can use something from it to justify their arguments or dislike for something in the original movie, damn well they'll use it.

I dunno, just my two cents.

[tigerdreams.livejournal.com]

Did I write this secret in my sleep?

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but taking in accound how much Triton hates humans (that btw, kill and eat his subjects), to him it must had been the equivalent of a anti-nazi father waking into his kid's room and found it decorated with nazi parafernalia.
He was abusive, for sure, but people forget to consider that he had feelings too and good reasons to hate humans...