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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-15 04:09 pm

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[identity profile] atheist-cheese.livejournal.com 2012-01-15 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
:P Have been proven wrong, then!

I more meant that there's much less connection to anything actually canon in the movie, especially in terms of characterization. In very broad, fuzzy terms it's relatable: eccentric genius with a loyal companion. But other than that pretty much every thing else is different/forgoed. The intricate plots, the most of the characterization. Sherlock BBC, I feel, tries a little harder to actually mirror the canon.

I'm not saying either is better, they're just very different.

[identity profile] sweet-children9.livejournal.com 2012-01-15 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe I am the only one but I see many things that are similar between the books and the movies. But maybe is just many and mu crazy imagination.

[identity profile] loracarol.livejournal.com 2012-01-15 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
No, you are not alone. :)

(Anonymous) 2012-01-15 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. Been an avid reader of the books for years. Started to re-read the adventures and thought that the film version is very faithful to the canon than most would give credit for versus the television series.

This is coming from someone that appreciates both the film and television series as a whole.

[identity profile] anna-sg1.livejournal.com 2012-01-15 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Not alone. :)

[identity profile] rabidsamfan.livejournal.com 2012-01-15 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a great deal of canon in the movies. And I know more people who went from the movies to the books than from the BBC series to the books.

Me, I've been a Sherlockian for decades, and I love them both. And Granada. And the Russian series. And the Ronald Howard series. And for that matter the Geoffrey Whitehead... er, um, yup, as long as there's a decent Watson, I'm pretty much a fan!

(Anonymous) 2012-01-15 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Not the only one, but I certainly see very little similarity myself.

The Granada series (for all its occasional cheesiness) knocks all other versions into a cocked hat, IMO.

The one, the only Sherlock Holmes worth a damn. Second place to Russian Holmes.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-16 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
I love Russian Holmes. It's flawless. Holmes is great, Watson is great, and their chemistry is great. And it's just a great adaption overall.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-16 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

It's not quite flawless to me because of the mix and match approach to the stories and the fact that Eastern Europe doesn't look anything like London (though they try hard) - plus they have some truly strange minor casting choices. But Solomin Watson: he pretty.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-17 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
So agreed! The settings and such don't matter to me as mmuch as the characters and how they interact.

[identity profile] rebness.livejournal.com 2012-01-16 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
No, I agree with you. I see more of a connection between the films and the books than the TV series and the books.

[identity profile] luxshine.livejournal.com 2012-01-16 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Not the only one. I've had a lot of discussions with my aunt over my insistance that the movies aren't that far off as people say...

[identity profile] sweet-children9.livejournal.com 2012-01-16 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
People base many of their headcanon sherlock on the Granada series. Maybe that is the reason

[identity profile] luxshine.livejournal.com 2012-01-16 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
YEah, I'm pretty sure that is it, even if my aunt swears she has read the books.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-16 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Bearing in Mind Granada (and Brett) sticks to the books like a limpet ( one or two eps and later seasons somewhat [occasionally a lot] excepted), that is hardly surprising.
It simply IS more faithful: it was designed to be so.
What pisses many Granada fans off more is the way Ritchie (and many movies fans who haven't even seen Granada) engage in knocking copy, trying to say it's "stodgy". Brett? Stodgy? Hahahahaha.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-15 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been reading the books lately, and I find I like RDJ's version. He's not a pure, complete asshole the way Cumberbatch is. Canon!Sherlock is condescending and a little self-absorbed, but he doesn't feel like an utter asshole. He's not perfect, but I vastly prefer him.

I don't have qualms with either Watson's personality, though. I just find it a little funny that someone who's "tanned and thin" from Afghanistan would be a little, erm, Martin Freeman-esque. I love Martin Freeman, but I would never use "thin" to describe him.

[identity profile] atheist-cheese.livejournal.com 2012-01-15 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
You have point about RDJs Sherlock. The thing that annoyed me a little about him is how completely over the top he is in terms of eccentricities and mannerisms.

I don't think recent Watsons have been done badly, but for some reason I always find like there's something missing in them.

To get all superficial here, one thing that endeared me to Sherlock BBC was they were actually relatively young. Sherlocks tend to be made so old in all adaptations. RDJ really isn't as bad as some when it comes to how old people cast Sherlock, but I do prefer the BBC for that.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-16 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
I love Martin Freeman, but I would never use "thin" to describe him

I'm a little confused, he looks thin to me...

(Anonymous) 2012-01-16 09:27 am (UTC)(link)
IDK if I'd call him 'thin'. He's pretty average in build. Certainly not fat, but not someone I'd describe as 'thin' either.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-16 09:52 am (UTC)(link)
Spoilers for The Great Game, just in case.

He wears a lot of jumpers and cardigans that make him look rather like a cream puff, but he's really quite thin. Try The Great Game, at the pool, after Sherlock's ripped that coat off of him and he sort of stumbles against the cabin — you can see it quite clearly then.