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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-01-15 04:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #1839 ]

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[identity profile] kribban.livejournal.com 2012-01-15 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I admit to using the TW a bit lightly. A more accurate term would just be "warning". On the other hand, that is how TW has come to be used in fandom. People use it to warn for all sorts of content.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-15 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
By which she means increasingly dumb things.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-15 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah. You should definitely warn in case some emo teen sees something that could trigger their oh-so-important impulses to self-harm but it's ridiculous to warn for a topic many find sensitive. /fuckingsarcasm

(Anonymous) 2012-01-15 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Sensitive because they've gone through an abortion or because they are pro-life?

(Anonymous) 2012-01-15 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Abortion is a sensitive subject for a lot of people and for a number of reasons both the procedure and the discussion thereof can bring back really bad memories. That's generally what a trigger is; I think instead of assuming people who are triggered by this kind of talk are just overreacting pro-lifers, we should take triggers seriously and respect the people who are affected by them. Your comment is really dismissive.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-16 12:56 pm (UTC)(link)
so pro-lifer then

(Anonymous) 2012-01-16 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
No, but it's a real shame to see what I'm assuming to be a fellow pro-choicer so unwilling to believe that abortion can hurt people. This is not what the abortion debate is about and for you to render it such means you probably don't even care about women's feelings, or women's rights even.
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[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2012-01-16 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
While there are a lot of women who have abortions and don't really feel emotional one way or the other about them, it's not that way for everybody. Even if someone is pro-choice and believes they made the right decision by having an abortion, they can still have mixed emotions about it. I don't think it's extremely common but it does happen. Everyone is different.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-16 12:57 pm (UTC)(link)
So you are a pro-life anti-choice fundie then. thanks for clearing that one up.

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(Anonymous) 2012-01-15 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
What?

(Anonymous) 2012-01-15 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, that was uncalled for.

It makes no sense to try and shelter people (like me) who are against abortion from the fact that it exists... and then turn around and imply that people who struggle with self-harm are just being special snowflakes and need to suck it up. >.>

I agree that it makes sense to warn for abortion since for some, it could trigger some, for people who were forced into one or something. However, that doesn't make other trigger warnings less valid.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-16 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
It makes no sense to try and shelter people (like me) who are against abortion

Stopped reading there.

Being pro-life triggers me. Fuck-off.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-16 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
I'm glad you have a healthy way to deal with people who don't have the same political opinion as you.

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(Anonymous) 2012-01-16 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT
I love how close-minded you are. We're not all the same.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-16 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
For calling out the ignorance of that self-harm comment: thank you. That was *really* uncalled for. Self-harm is a real problem, not just done for attention 99% of the time, very easily triggered for some people, and the anon who made that comment is just making themselves sound like an ignorant asshole. Especially the perpetuation of that "emo kid" stereotype, UGH. That entire comment is just disgusting.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-16 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
That pissed me off too. I've never cut, but I've had serious depression issues, and I can understand the sorts of awful feelings that could lead somebody down that road. Not something to mock as being emo kids. What the hell.

[identity profile] intrigueing.livejournal.com 2012-01-16 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. I'm sure there are a few stupid emo kids who cut because they want to seem like special snowflakes out there, but the vast majority of people who self-harm have genuinely legitimate problems and have actual emotional reactions to the subject. Assuming people who self-harm are all emo kids is either disgustingly insensitive or really misinformed.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-16 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
Even though I can't thank you for wanting to make my body public property, I am glad you spoke up to defend self-harm trigger warnings. Mental health and self-harm are actual, serious issues that people close to me have struggled with, and they really don't need to be dismissed that way.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-15 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
that is how TW has come to be used in fandom. People use it to warn for all sorts of content.

And that's part of the problem. It gives more ammo to the people who don't take triggers seriously, when people doing the actual warning confuse "trigger" with "things people are uncomfortable discussing."

(Anonymous) 2012-01-15 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
What part of "abortion can be an actual trigger" are you dismissive assholes not getting?

(Anonymous) 2012-01-15 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Anything CAN be a trigger to specific people. Is abortion a commonly triggering thing?

(Anonymous) 2012-01-15 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I would say so, sure. Either way, being dismissive about it is not the best method of dealing with it.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-16 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
You would say so...but then you would say so whether it is or not because that is your whole argument. Post some evidence or STFU!

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(Anonymous) 2012-01-16 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Calling others assholes should come with a TW.

(Anonymous) 2012-01-16 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
No it shouldn't, asshole. Traumatic experiences like rape, abuse and SOMETIMES ABORTION should, though.