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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-02-11 03:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #1866 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1866 ⌋


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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2012-02-11 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
08. http://i41.tinypic.com/vfealy.jpg

(Anonymous) 2012-02-11 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
lol

[identity profile] insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com 2012-02-11 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
What. Your basically saying you and your friend also have sexual feelings for each other... and this is a problem why? It sounds like there's only two people involved in this, you and friend, so I'm not even sure how this constitutes cheating in any sense of the word.

Also, in this picture, is this implying kanyaya/eridan while equius watches the whole thing (and sweats) , or kanaya and eridan eyballing sweaty equius?

Either way, the crack is so delicious I support all options. Equius could make her a STRONG chainsaw.

[identity profile] starshipblues.livejournal.com 2012-02-11 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry but stop.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-11 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
... What?

[identity profile] i-lyk-breathing.livejournal.com 2012-02-11 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't get it

[identity profile] tenebrais.livejournal.com 2012-02-11 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course it's cheating if you have two moirails!!!


(Also quadrants aren't a real thing)

[identity profile] castorochiaro.livejournal.com 2012-02-11 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not cheating if you haven't acted on it. We're all human beings and we have flaws, and sometimes yeah, we're attracted to people other than our chosen partner. All the same, I would really suggest talking to them about this before it DOES turn into a big messy love triangle thing.

[identity profile] faygos.livejournal.com 2012-02-11 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
omg im sorry but im just laughing at ppl who actually apply relationships to quadrants like they it is socially acceptable to do

[identity profile] insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com 2012-02-12 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Or sane.

[identity profile] flutingfrenzy.livejournal.com 2012-02-12 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that art definitely requires an explanation.

[identity profile] insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com 2012-02-12 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
It really does. this is an otp with witness or an ot3?

[identity profile] streetcake.livejournal.com 2012-02-12 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Quadrants were made by Andrew to make fun of fans. Taking them seriously is...sad.
Plus, now you're creating senseless drama by denying each other's feelings just because you're invested in a fictional alien romancesorry, misread this. I mean, now you're creating senseless drama by putting yourself in a situation where you're allowing yourself to indulge in feelings for someone you like which could easily lead to cheating(if what you're saying is you already have a boy/girlfriend).

Even if troll romance was a real thing, you do know the trolls were raised in a society that has taught this concept for centuries and it's engrained in their culture. You can't just "shift" over to troll romance because it sounds more interesting, because it's not gonna work out the way you think.
Edited 2012-02-12 01:04 (UTC)

[identity profile] oflittlebrain.livejournal.com 2012-02-12 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
S T O P

[identity profile] madrigog.livejournal.com 2012-02-12 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
I don't really...get this. I pretty much understand quadrants within the context of Homestuck, but it's baffling to think of the categories applied in real life. Can't you just talk your feelings over with this person like a rational human being instead of trying to stick fictional labels on your interactions?
Edited 2012-02-12 03:45 (UTC)

[identity profile] streetcake.livejournal.com 2012-02-12 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
it's baffling to think of the categories applied in real life

Well the conciliatory quadrants are pretty common to see, it's just that we don't identify them as romantic relationships and don't really have any reason to...so yeah it's still stupid to label these things.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-12 08:34 am (UTC)(link)
Translated out of Hamsteak, OP (I presume) has a significant other and a best friend. OP has romantic feelings for both, but doesn't want to lose the significant other or to have to cut back on the closeness with the best friend. Therefore, OP is defining them as two different but very equal relationships- the one with the significant other is a traditional romantic relationship, the one with the best friend is super intense and full of love and sharing, but completely platonic. However, OP and the best friend still are romantically attracted to each other, and the closeness they have could be considered emotional infidelity.

I'm not the OP, so I could be getting some of the details wrong.

Quadrants is kind of weird. But I don't think that putting labels on things is the problem. I mean, if you're monogamous (and I'm saying this as someone who is), you already are saying "this relationship is one thing, this other one is a completely different thing that's nothing like it." The problem wasn't having this friendship and labelling it as a special friendship, the problem was that special friendship wasn't what either of them really wanted. They want to date, and by having this special friendship they're enabling each other to have a kind of intimacy that crosses lines even if it's all theoretically platonic. People have gotten themselves into this situation without labelling their relationships in any strange way.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-12 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this ^ is basically what I thought the OP was saying, too.

[identity profile] corvigryph.livejournal.com 2012-02-12 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure where your going with this but this drawing reminds me of how much I crack ship Kanaya<>Equius so.. thanks? xD

(Anonymous) 2012-02-12 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
If one more person starts yabbering about monorails and redrum and kismesics to describe their real life social relationships I will go to their house and shit in their mouth

[identity profile] corvigryph.livejournal.com 2012-02-12 08:53 am (UTC)(link)
Why? there's nothing wrong with applying a fictional worlds terms to relationship types that already exist.

Troll romance had to come from somewhere. Y'know as long as people arn't idiots about it.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-12 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
Except that you're not a troll, therefore you shouldn't try to justify cheating with "troll quadrants," because you're not a troll.

Now kindly GTFO out Homestuck until you stop being so batshit insane as to try to abide by fictional living standards for an alien race of bug-people.
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[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2012-02-12 07:52 am (UTC)(link)
Ignoring all the controversy over whether or not it's ever okay to apply troll terminology to human relationships, if you want to bang someone, they are not your moirail.

(Personally, while I am very aware that I am not a grey-skinned alien with horns and oddly coloured blood, I think that describing human relationships in terms of quadrants is popular not because people think they are really aliens or that trolls are real, but rather because our culture tends to devalue all relationships that are neither blood/adoptive family nor sexually motivated. If the most important person in your life is not someone you are banging or ever want to bang, the concept of moirallegiance can feel really validating. If you have had the uncomfortable--and yes, incredibly fucked-up--kind of relationship where you're wildly sexually attracted to someone you cannot otherwise STAND and are constantly furious with, the idea of kismesis makes a certain kind of sense--and gives you a name for the kind of attraction you've experienced before and would now prefer to avoid. And so forth.)

(Anonymous) 2012-02-12 08:00 am (UTC)(link)
Perhaps I'm too invested in internet weirdness, but does anyone remember Gor? It was this pretty stupid fantasy/sci-fi book series that had a lot of sexual master/slave relationships that was very much like the way some people practice 24/7 BDSM. Unsurprisingly, some fans of 24/7 BDSM got ahold of the books and started using some of the concepts in their actual relationships.

Homestuck quadrants are tame shit compared to that, and I think it's actually really cute to have a word for a best friend that recognizes the relationship as an important one! A lot of people think that having a best friend is kid stuff, and it makes me really sad to see adults who don't have one, or really any friends at all, or even who don't think friendship is really that important. I don't do quadrants myself, but I really do like the whole "treating platonic relationships as a thing" bit. I'm also wondering if people who do polyamory could adapt this into something that might be useful for some of them- not involving hate dates or anything, but if there were multiple kinds of relationships that they wanted to have and they wanted to reserve one slot for each, or something like that. (I also don't do polyamory, but it's interesting to see how different people make it work and such.)

[identity profile] insanenoodlyguy.livejournal.com 2012-02-13 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
SILENCE SPIDER PLANT. THIS IS GOR. AND ON GOR I DECIDE WHEN YOU WILL BE WATERED. AND NOW IS WHEN YOU WILL BE WATERED AND YOU WILL ENJOY IT, FOR ONLY WHEN I COMMAND YOU WILL YOU TRULY KNOW WHAT IT IS TO BE A SPIDER PLANT.