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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-07-08 05:25 pm

[ SECRET POST #184 ]


⌈ Secret Post #184 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 131 secrets from Secret Submission Post #027.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 ] broken links, [ 1 ] not!secrets, [ 1 ] not!fandom, [ 1 2 3 ] personal attacks.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Monday, July 9th, 2007.
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[identity profile] allsunday.livejournal.com 2007-07-09 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
11. How old is this girl? Her art looks like something I might have drawn in grade school. It sure as hell isn't professional-grade, and I'm amazed she doesn't recognize that.

25. Look, ignore all the people who are telling you that this is wrong or bad, etc, etc. It's not wrong. Everyone has fetishes, and some of them can be weird or even disturbing. This doesn't mean that there's anything mentally or emotionally wrong with you. The phrase "whatever floats your boat" should be generously applied here.

I'd only suggest you get therapy if you know this is the result of some kind of trauma, or if it genuinely interferes with your having a healthy sex life. Otherwise, the only things you need help with are learning to accept your kink without guilt and finding others like you so you can have people to relate to.

(Anonymous) 2007-07-09 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Do you also say 'whatever floats your boat!' to pedophiles? I mean, hey! it's only a sexual fetish after all! And men who only get off on women screaming when they rape them?

The phrase 'whatever floats your boat' should only apply as long as other people aren't getting harmed. If fantasies start to circle around killing people and other things of violent nature, there certainly is a reason to worry. Of course in many cases these fantasies won't be acted on, but in some it happens and things get ugly for *other* people.

I'm a tolerant person, but tolerance should only go as far as reasonable thought, and should not be abused as an excuse for everything and anything.

[identity profile] allsunday.livejournal.com 2007-07-09 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
Do us all a favor and educate yourself about these fetishes before you start spewing crap like this, anony-mousie. Rape fantasy doesn't actually involve harming anyone, and eroguro is a purely media-based phenomenon. People who like eroguro aren't turned on by real physical violence or blood anymore than people who like rape fantasy are turned on by actual rape. The entire point is that it's fantasy.

S&M often does do physical harm, and that's a well-accepted and highly-practiced kink. If you had been asked about S&M, I'm sure even you'd readily admit that it applies to the "float your boat" philosophy. Rape fantasy and eroguro are no different.

As with all "violent" fetishes, as long as both partners are consenting, trust each other, and there's a safe word in place, there's no problem. None of the kinks I've mentioned are even remotely similar to pedophilia or actual rape, and shame on you for implying such.

(Anonymous) 2007-07-09 08:25 am (UTC)(link)
I enjoy action movies where people blow up. I will never blow a person up, but I can't help but laugh when I see it happen in a fictional setting. I'm sure the same is true for the secret poster. They get off on eroguro, but it's just an art form. Most people who appreciate the art form to not run around chopping each other's limbs off for sexual gratification.

You dragging out pedophilia as an example shows just how little you understand about people and their interests. An interest in something not deemed acceptable by others is not a crime. I'm interested in speeding down the highway over the posted limit of 60pmh. Am I a criminal? D=

(Anonymous) 2007-07-09 09:26 am (UTC)(link)
"I don't want to be this way", says the secret. So you aren't helping.

(Anonymous) 2007-07-09 09:58 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of people long for "normal" when there's nothing wrong with them. Perhaps they don't resent their fetish so much as they resent people like you trying to convince them that they're deviant freaks who need to be jailed for having such a fetish.

[identity profile] allsunday.livejournal.com 2007-07-09 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
IAWTC. I doubt she'd ever say "I don't want to be this way" if other people had never tried to convince her that she's somehow bad for being the way she is. If people were supportive of her perfectly natural and rather widespread kinks instead of knee-jerking like uneducated monkeys, I doubt she would have ever felt the need to post this secret in the first place.

In other words, all her emotional problems with this particular issue could be completely resolved if people like Anonymous #1 could learn to pull their heads out of their asses.

(Anonymous) 2007-07-09 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, that's a highly uneducated response.

There's a big, big difference between getting off on something in fiction and getting off on it in real life.

I get off on violent hentai. Tentacle rape, snuff, that sort of thing. It's a fantasy, it's not real, I just like it if it's drawn images or written stories. In real life, rape and violence disgust me in ways I can't even put into words.

Just because you're into something in a fantasy and fictional context does not mean there is any desire to act on it in real life.

(Anonymous) 2007-07-09 06:28 am (UTC)(link)
She's 24. She lives with her parents.

They're paying for her to go to art school.

[identity profile] jurhael.livejournal.com 2007-07-09 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
WHAT? Her parents are paying for it?

Lucky bitch...

[identity profile] allsunday.livejournal.com 2007-07-09 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
She needs a reality check. She has a ton of work to do if she's 24 and her art still looks like that (a semester of still-life drawing classes for starters), and she's not going to escape that "boring retail job" just because she does artwork. Has she never heard the phrase "starving artist"? It's entirely too common for artists to have to supplement their income through part-time jobs.

It's amazing her parents are actually paying for her school when she's old enough to file for financial aid as an independent student, but even that won't last forever. One day she'll be forced to fend for herself, and she'll have to confront the fact that the world isn't woven together from rose petals and diamonds.

(#11 OP here)

(Anonymous) 2007-07-09 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I've talked to her about "starving artist," and from her response I think her suburban-youth insulation is so deep she thinks it means you'd have to live in a real small apartment and maybe have only basic cable and a PS2 instead of a 360. I couldn't get it across that when you have no money, you live nowhere and have nothing. And I certainly couldn't explain that even fairly well-known artists are often supplementing their income with full-time jobs.

Someday her parents are going to run out of money or patience, yep, and... well, I work in nursing care of former homeless people, so maybe we'll meet again!

(She mocked me for the nursing job because it's "abandoning my dream." Which is... sort of true, I'd rather be a French-pastry-taste-tester or maybe a professional-Alyson-Hannigan-kisser, but God damn, if everyone lived their dreams we'd have nothing to eat and the toilets wouldn't flush. I don't think getting absolutely everything you want is the only acceptable life goal.)

Re: (#11 OP here)

[identity profile] furikku.livejournal.com 2007-07-09 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
professional-Alyson-Hannigan-kisser

Holy shit, I am quitting my job and applying for that one.

if everyone lived their dreams we'd have nothing to eat and the toilets wouldn't flush

I'm sure someone, somewhere must have a dream of being the BEST DAMN PLUMBER EVER. if only for the prospect of hearing the voice of a princess calling for help and then busting into a kingdom full of evil turtles and mushrooms for the purposes of Grand Adventure and grabbing coins.

Re: (#11 OP here)

[identity profile] klytaemnestra.livejournal.com 2007-07-10 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Holy shit, I am quitting my job and applying for that one.

Me too. Lol.