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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-02-24 06:22 pm

[ SECRET POST #1879 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1879 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Dain Curse by Dashiell Hammett]


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[Matilda]


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[Person of Interest]


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[Boston Public]


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[Rideback]


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[The Office (UK)/Harry Potter]


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[Inspector Lynley Mysteries]


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[Prince of Cats]


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10. [personal attack]


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[Misfits]


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[Smash]


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[Hetalia]


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[Shadow of the Colossus]


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[Dragon Age]


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[Zack Snyder]


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[Kill Bill]


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[askandroidwheatley/Wheatley (Portal 2)]


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[TGWTG, Todd in the Shadows]


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[Sailor Moon]


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[Hyvät ja huonot uutiset]


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[MLP: FiM]


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[Once Upon a Time]


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[Katekyo Hitman Reborn!]


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[How I Met Your Mother]


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[Castle]


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[Amanda Palmer]


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[Katawa Shoujo]


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[Homestuck]


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[Evangelion]


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32. [SPOILERS for Salt and TGWTDT]



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33. [SPOILERS for Katawa Shoujo]



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34. [TRIGGER WARNING for incest]



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35. [TRIGGER WARNING for incest]



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36. [TRIGGER WARNING for child abuse]

[DC comics/DCAU]


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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2012-02-24 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
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http://i.imgur.com/QkdWM.jpg

[identity profile] micromyni.livejournal.com 2012-02-24 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, it's okay. I don't judge you for this, it's not like you get off on having sex with an actual sibling. I'm mentally equating it with shotacon or having a rape kink in my head. As for the asexual thing, I empathize with that as well. I considered myself as asexual, though I do enjoy pleasuring my partners sexually, because I don't like it when they try to touch me. Like that one stripper rule "I can touch you, you can't touch me." I can't get off on it, and I don't let them try. But since I do still have sex and enjoy it in my own way, I don't know what to call myself. Ah, well, I can function fine without needing to slap a label on it.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
You said you didn't care about labels, but isn't that 'rock' or something?
(and the other way around (want to receive sex but not to give) being called 'paper' I think?)

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(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
I'm like this too. That stripper rule matches me perfectly. I thought it was asexual but these days there are so many labels I don't care either. It's good to know other people exist who are like me. *fist bump*

[identity profile] madrigog.livejournal.com 2012-02-25 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
Hm, I have the same approach to intimacy. Honestly it's a relief to hear that other people operate that way, too, so thanks!

[identity profile] aiffe.livejournal.com 2012-02-25 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm the same way. I've had "stone" suggested to me, and though I generally (but not exclusively) prefer women, I don't really fit into the butch/femme binary, so I felt a bit uncomfortable using it.

Honestly, I just call myself asexual, and I have seen other people online who self-identify as asexual and are the same way. Asexual doesn't mean never having sex, it means not experiencing sexual attraction. I'm fairly indifferent to sex, so if I like my partner enough, and they really want it, I don't have a problem with going there for them and making a good show of it, but it's not like it's something I crave. It's like, if I had a partner who really dug bowling, I'd go bowling with them and I'd find some kind of enjoyment in it somewhere, but if I never went bowling again in my life, I wouldn't miss it, and it isn't something I'd think to do. And me touching them with them not touching me just makes more sense. Them touching me is just awwwwkward because they're clearly expecting things that are not going to happen. Making someone's knees buckle, though, there's a point to that, so I can get behind it. I like it when people I care about are having a good time.

AVEN describes what we do as "secondary sexual pleasure"--the "I'm happy you're happy" thing. *sexual people get this too. But they also get primary sexual pleasure, which is the, you know, getting off from sex thing. IMO, not having the primary sexual pleasure is enough to ID as asexual if you want to. Of course you don't have to if you feel it doesn't fit you.

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(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
That sounds more like a sexual fetish than a kink. The difference is frequently overlooked, but it's a rather big one, and recognizing it might help you cope* better and eventually allow a happier or easier sexual relationship with a partner.


*(I can't think of the english word I want)

(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
It's possible to be asexual and kinky. Case of point: I discovered my love of brother/sister incest a year before I discovered that there was a word for my disinterest in having sex with others ♥

[identity profile] havemy-heart.livejournal.com 2012-02-25 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
No judging here. I have thought more than once that a fictional sibling pair had more chemistry with each other than with their respective love interests. To me, it's a kink like any other.

I'm glad for you for finding something that gives you that kind of fulfillment.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
You're not alone. I'm the same. And I'm sure there are other people like us. Even if your future partner doesn't share your kink/fetish doesn't mean they'd disapprove of it, so don't worry about it too much. It's likely they'll have other kinks that they fear might be a turn-off for you. (That's how it went with me.)

(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
hello, I know you aren't my best friend because you don't write like her, but gosh do you have similar kinks. And you know, she opened up to her boyfriend about it and I think he's indulging her in some sibling roleplay every once in a while. So-- not my cup of tea, but you aren't alone! And I hope you get a lot of enjoyment out of it.

[identity profile] skinscript.livejournal.com 2012-02-25 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
literotica.com has a whole section on this. Check it out. No shame to be had.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
One of my most hardcore kinks is incest. Don't worry about it anon, you're definitely not alone out there.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
You're not as weird as you think you are. A lot of people have kinks like this. You will probably meet someone you can share this with.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
OP here.

Just for clarification, not that anyone questioned it, but I meant "family" not "fandom." Though I'm not into anyone in any of my fandoms, either.

Though, hey, if anyone's in the same boat and single...holla?

And, thanks guys. It's nice to say this and at least not be judged by a small anonymous group online.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Watch Star Wars and Suggest Role-Play to your partner? Like Leia/Luke? Other movies w/famous siblings role-play?

I actually think is really more common than you think for this to be a sexual fantasy and that you won't find many who object to it.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
I would love to, but that would assume I had a partner to begin with. Are you suggesting just dating someone normally and then just springing the whole incest roleplay thing casually? You don't think she'd be suspicious if I couldn't get off any way before that? I'm not say it's a bad idea, just that it's not that easy, either. I feel like I have to advertise it outright or it's not fair to either of us... But that doesn't exactly bring the ladies in.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
I can only get off on extreme non-con and I'm not worried about it. We each have our fetishes/kinks. It's part of a human's sexual psychology. As long as it stays in the realm of fiction, fantasy and roleplay there's nothing wrong with it.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
OP here.

Just wanted to clarify something, not that anyone asked, but I meant "family" not "fandom." Though I'm not attracted to anyone in my fandom, either.

And thanks everyone, for not being cruel and judgemental. It's nice to at least admit this to a small portion of the internet that doesn't hate me for it. I don't have many hopes of meeting a girl (or, in a pinch, a guy) with a similar kink, but I suppose I can hope. And hey, if anyone's reading this and thinks we might mesh, well...say hello?

But mostly, thank you all. Now I hope this doesn't post twice, and is anon. *double checks everything*

[identity profile] vethica.livejournal.com 2012-02-25 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
You can be asexual and still get off on stuff. It's interest in people that's the factor.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
I've actually literally slept with my cousin in real life- not sustaining a relationship though.

That said... have you considered ageplay groups? I'm 22 so we're not all super older/creepy. It's still a small group, and I quit fetlife sooo yeah.There's some into incest. Most of it is Daddy/Daughter stuff, but Uncle/Niece or Brother/Sister or whatever his common too. ... Yeah. I would assume the roleplay would be similar except incest could be more general. Ageplay encompasses a lot but they'd be pretending to be younger. The most common/popular ageplay scenario is teacher/student but a lot of people love inscesty ones. There are actually asexual ageplayers. ... They just happen to like *pretending* to be 2-8 instead of older for the most part. Idk if that helps, but I think you'd have the most luck with our crowd.
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Or I could just be encouraging ageplay because it's win. I'd make friends with him but I'm too chicken to post un-anon.

IDK IF THAT HELPS. But I don't think you're creepy and there's a lot of non-judgmental people out there.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
OP here

I'd be down with the age play stuff (Daddy/Daughter style, not adult/child), but as you said it's a small group. I also don't just want sex. I want a relationship. I'm also monogamous, and fairly vanilla otherwise. I admit I haven't spent a huge amount of time on Fetlife, but I've posted a few things in relevant groups and all I've gotten are 50-year-old+ men who want to be my daddy (I'm not opposed to dating a man, but I'm really much more attracted to women, and women around my age i.e. like 22-39), or else offers to be a third in some polygroups, which is all fine and well, but not what I want at all, sigh.

I mean, maybe if you think your group would be a decent fit for me. I'm pretty lonely so I'm willing to try a lot of things. Do you have a website or something? I could make up a fake email address if you want to email it.

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[identity profile] aiffe.livejournal.com 2012-02-25 12:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Asexual and kinky as fuck over here. I've gotten off to things I'm not even going to talk about in public. In fact, I had a hard time figuring out I was asexual, because I was just so damn kinky I just assumed I'd be into partnered sex too. Turned out, not so much. What I've come to realize is that a lot of asexuals are turned on by ideas, which is a very different thing from being turned on by people. (It is, of course, absolutely possible to have both.) Ace sexual fantasies tend to be situational (e.g. this thing happens, but it's not about the person/people there), or completely in the realm of the fantastic (impossible to perform in real life), and not generally focused on, oh, this guy/girl/ambiguously gendered person, they're so sexy, mmmm naked sexy person. Though some might be--I think the distinction is still that the person having the fantasy prefers it as fantasy and the desires don't cross over into real life.

Asexual means not being attracted to real people, so TV characters, celebrities you'll never meet, cartoons, and things that get you off in your head don't actually count. They can be an indicator of sexual orientation in some people, but an active fantasy life is not proof of non-asexuality.

You may well not be asexual, and may totally have a blast doing incest roleplay with a partner. (I don't judge, consenting adults can roleplay anything they damn please.) Or you may find that the incest idea is hot, but having an actual person there adds nothing, and may even be detrimental. One way to find out, of course, is to hook up with someone. But it might be worth self-examining, too. Do you sincerely want another person to act out your fantasy with, or is the fantasy itself all you really wanted all along?

(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, I-- Suddenly everything makes more sense. I've spent most of my youth/young adult life drifting between whether I'm asexual or a repressed queer with a low libido. (I had the kind of upbringing where sex was never mentioned because it would have been too awkward, but I've always been pretty mature and I don't think I've ever been that innocent about sex.)

I have some kind of a sex drive, but I've never been physically attracted to a real person (or a fictional one, for that matter). I do find many people visually pleasing and I can think someone is attractive and sexy but that doesn't mean I'd be sexually attracted to them myself. I fantasize, but my fantasies never have anything to do with myself and very rarely anyone particular. As you said, I'm turned on by ideas and situations and atmosphere. I've had sex and I don't mind having it to please my partner, though I prefer to be the one to do the touching. I just don't really get the urge. I really love reading about sex, and I think there's something wonderful and sensual about beautiful writing, and though I rarely get physically off on it, it is pleasing to me on a certain sensual level.

My biggest problem with identifying myself as anything has always been that I'm mostly drawn to asexuality because I've always found it so hard to relate the way most people are attracted to others on a purely physical level. But on the other hand, I do still have a sex drive (even if I don't desire to have sex with other people) and I do have fantasies, just not the 'regular' kind. But what you said kind of solves this tangle a little bit. Thank you so much.

(Anonymous) 2012-02-25 12:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I know how you feel, OP; het incest isn't the only thing I can get off to, but it's at the top of a pretty short list. I didn't figure this out about myself until pretty recently, after being with my partner for a few years; thankfully two of our fandoms have incestual family relationships along those lines, whether textual or subtextual, and she's quite willing to roleplay them with me (for her it's more about the power dynamic than the incest factor, but yeah).

I wish I could offer you some advice on how to find someone, but I kind of fell ass-backwards into this myself. Hang in there.