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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-03-07 07:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #1891 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1891 ⌋


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(Anonymous) 2012-03-08 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who was bullied all throughout high school to the doing where I myself was suicidal, I have little sympathy for Karofsky.

If my bullies had all hung themselves one day, I would have been happier because then I wouldn't be scared of going to school and being beaten up, harassed or had slurs thrown at me. Meanwhile they all seem to be living their lives normally and graduating college now, and I'm still struggling with the aftereffects of daily abuse. I can't even go to college because I'm too terrified of social settings now.

Fuck bullies, man. I have no sympathy for any of them.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-08 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who was bullied all throughout elementary school, middle school, high school, and into college, I would never wish death upon anyone. I would never wish the misery of being suicidal on anyone.

Yeah, it sucks to be bullied and it has far reaching effects in life. Yeah, most bullies don't even remember being a bully or the events that are burned into your own brain. Most go on to be normal adults with normal lives. And that sucks, but I still wouldn't wish death upon them.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-08 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT, but well goody for you!

(Anonymous) 2012-03-08 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Congratulations?

I'll never understand this whole "Bullies are people too! How dare a victim say anything mean about them!" attitude people have. I have far more sympathy for victims than I do for bullies, and while wishing death on someone is harsh, it also isn't uncommon. Humans are irrational, and as much as we don't like to think it, sometimes we say (and wish for) awful things. So if a single person is making one's life miserable, I wouldn't blame the victim for wanting the bully to fall off the face of the earth. If it makes life easier, if only for a single day, I don't blame them for wanting something bad to happen to their bully.

I'd also say being bullied is far worse than just something that "sucks". Talk about an understatement.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-08 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't say you couldn't say mean things about them, I just said I wouldn't ever wish death on anyone. There is a HUGE difference. And while I agree that i can be a natural emotional jump to wishing death upon those who hurt you, I disagree that it's ever a good thought. But people have different philosophies on life, so I imagine this is one topic we will never agree on.

Ok, so bullying doesn't suck? Should I have added more adjectives? Gone into how it's a fiery miasma of pain and suffering that one can never get over and creates a black hole of sadness within ones heart? Would that have been better? Sucks is an appropriate term, and for me encapsulates all the misery and badness that bullying results in. It's a nice easy satisfying word.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-09 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

[identity profile] xerxes92.livejournal.com 2012-03-08 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
You forget that at the point Karofsky did this, he has already given up bullying and is genuinely sorry for what he's done, the way you say it makes it sound like he's still the asshole he was in season 1 and part of season 2. I understand the sentiment towards bullies who have never been sorry for what they've done and harass people relentlessly, but that is not Karofsky, so justifying your lack of sympathy towards him because of people like them simply does not make logical sense (which, considering this is more of an emotional subject, is slightly acceptable, I think you just ought to keep that in mind.)

And everyone's bullying experience is different, as a result of my being bullied I just became extremely apathetic and occasionally snarky towards assholes because I learned it wasn't worth my time to worry about what shitheads think of me. I think wishing death on someone is kinda dumb, unless said person has the power to hurt a lot of people (like hitler or various dictators and war criminals) part of it is, if they're dead you never get the chance to spite them, and they can't suffer if they're dead.

(Anonymous) 2012-03-08 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
The biggest problem with the above is that David had stopped bullying, made a turn around and was working at becoming a better person. He had apologized more than once and had made peace with Kurt.

When this happened to him, HE WASN'T A BULLY ANYMORE.

I can understand your feelings, but while I think we need to look harder at the people bullying and figure out why they do it and believe that the victims and their safety are the more imminent concern, bullies are still human beings. I hate how people forget that.

[identity profile] jaquenerd.livejournal.com 2012-03-08 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, going to be the judgmental bitch here, but have you thought about getting some closure?