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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-05-02 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #1947 ]


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[identity profile] fuchsiascreams.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my God, I completely fucking know how you feel. I love wearing tanktops, but I avoid it because it's impossible for me NOT to have huge amounts of cleavage while wearing them, and I've been picked on/called a whore in the past for wearing them, so I'd rather avoid it. Just a couple of months ago, a guy online told me that if I got raped while wearing something low-cut, it would be my own fault because my breasts are so large, and I should be hiding them instead of putting out there to tempt men.

[identity profile] tweedisgood.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
No, if he gets punched very hard through the internet, that would be his fault. "Tempting men"? Yeah, because men are animals and can't be held responsible for anything they do.

What a grade one BASTARD. I hope you told him so, and then went out wearing something with lots of cleavage, just to stick it to him and all the small minded pickers and bullies.

[identity profile] fuchsiascreams.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
I did, actually, and I agree. The suggestion that men are somehow not capable of controlling themselves from sexually assaulting a girl based on the size of her breasts and what she's wearing is completely fucking ridiculous. And so is the suggestion that a woman who wears something low-cut is "looking for some", as he said (which apparently means that any random guy can take it if he wants).

The next day, I went out and bought the lowest-cut dress I have ever bought in my entire life, and wore it to school that night.

[identity profile] tweedisgood.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
Excellent. I am just made so angry every time I hear/read that women get intimidated into complying with this kind of garbage thinking.

[identity profile] fuchsiascreams.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
Intimidated how? Like, not wearing what they want because people call them a whore for it?

[identity profile] tweedisgood.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 07:06 am (UTC)(link)
That, and buying into the whole "what you choose to wear is up for adverse comment by the whole world" shtick. Seriously, too many people seem to have missed the vital "mind your own business" part of their upbringing, and the "if you can't say something positive" principle.

Maybe it's age speaking (terribly over 50 here), but my reaction to an adverse comment on my clothes would be a hard stare and a "and I should care about your ignorant opinion because...?" if needed for follow up. YMMV.

[identity profile] ontogenesis.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
What a loser. It's asshole (male) privilege to be so careless when talking about rape. But men have always obsessed about regulating women's bodies in every aspect including clothing.

People like that need to be educated about SlutWalk: Don't tell women what to wear, tell men NOT to rape.

[identity profile] fuchsiascreams.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 06:14 am (UTC)(link)
Completely agree. I really hate the idea that a man raping a woman is somehow the woman's fault because she was born with large breasts, because she left her house wearing something more revealing than sweatpants and a turtleneck, because she wore what she wanted based on her style instead of based on the desire to NOT be sexually assaulted.

As if a man can't possibly help but rape a woman who is attractive, or has large breasts, or is wearing something revealing.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-03 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
It amazes me that someone can say something that manages to be both vile and ridiculous-sounding! It's like: "Putting them out... on the table? On the line to dry? With the cat at night???"

(For serious, sorry these things have happened to you. My sister has a generous figure as well, and she's only a few times told me about what people have said to her, but kids I barely knew would ask me shitty questions about her in school and I've stepped in a couple times between her and staring dudes. She has, over time, amassed a comfortable wardrobe -- including tanks -- and the ability to put on a polite air of please-fuck-off as necessary. I'm hoping you don't have to be in any contact with the people who've said stupid shit like that anymore, or if you do, practice your "Really? Wow." reaction.)

[identity profile] fuchsiascreams.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. It's like, what? Do you ACTUALLY believe these things?

And also, thank you. I feel bad for your sister, too - I definitely know what it's like. In general it doesn't bother me, except for the occasional interaction in which a man, seeing the plunging neckline of my shirt, assumes that because I am wearing revealing clothing, I am clearly looking to get laid, and takes this as my silently consenting to him groping me for no reason (which happens more than anyone would like to know). I hope your sister isn't too bothered by these comments, either, though, but she should watch herself. Sometimes men who are confident enough to make these comments in public are also the ones who feel comfortable groping you in public, too.

[identity profile] cellorocket.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
That is absolutely disgusting.

god, I just have so many feelings on this. We might as well just swaddle ourselves in burlap sacks so as not to tempt the menfolk with our sinfully developed bodies.

I wish I could say this is a rare thing, but I've been told I was 'asking for it' myself, sometimes by my own significant other (former S.O, thankfully).

[identity profile] fuchsiascreams.livejournal.com 2012-05-05 08:44 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, wow. It's so disgusting and sad how common this is. I used to think it was completely normal because of how often it happened.