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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-05-22 07:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #1967 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1967 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 051 secrets from Secret Submission Post #281.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-23 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
It's because death fatties like Cassandra Clare/Judith Rumelt only write ethereal, near anorexic heroines and heroes, and fat fangirls only fan characters that are skinny, that we got here. If you're fat, own it, love the skin you're in etc.

Asking your SO "okay, just pretend I weigh about as much as that five year old from Okane ga nai, okay, THAT'S SEXY!" is a douchebaggy, faintly pedophilic, fat-shaming self-hating thing to do. I don't blame you for not getting into it, OP, it's plain weird if she wants you to join her in projecting her issues like whoa.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-23 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
That's stupid. I think the scenario described in the secret is pretty damn goofy and don't fault OP for not being able to get into it, but it's not because fat people should only identify with fat people and stick with their own kind or else they're self-hating fatties.

And even if they are, why tell someone who's morbidly obese that they're bad for not being happy about it?

[identity profile] drunken-clowns.livejournal.com 2012-05-23 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
Look, I'm not saying bigger people never have a problem with shame. But really? Yaoi fans, especially the ones who date women in real life, tend to fangirl over the characters and the relationships they're having. It's not like they're choosing skinny boy [bishounen pair] over chubby girl [bishounen pair], it's that only one of those options is available. If I were to roleplay, though I don't, it probably would be as a skinny guy character- not because I think that being skinny and male makes you more interesting, but because there are very few characters that aren't skinny or male that get to be written as people independent of being chubby or a girl. Maybe OP's girlfriend doesn't hate herself, she just likes the characters, and "okay but can we do genderswap" or whatever sounds like an even weirder request. Larger people shouldn't be made to feel like they have to be ashamed of their bodies and pretend they're not large, but they also shouldn't be made to feel like the amount of adipose tissue on their bodies is what defines who they are and who they're allowed to relate to.

idk if people like Cassandra Clare are to blame either (also what is a death fatty? she seems pretty happy and alive to me) because somebody's out there publishing these books, and a protagonist that was explicitly larger might not be seen as marketable.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-23 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
http://deathfatties.tumblr.com/

[identity profile] drunken-clowns.livejournal.com 2012-05-23 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
...is the point supposed to be that most of these people look just regular fat and not necessarily super unhealthy? (not that it's cool to police a stranger's health in the first place, but like, this (http://deathfatties.tumblr.com/post/20190709691/taking-photos-of-myself-has-helped-me-to-accept#notes) woman for example.) I'm getting a lot more thoughts about BMI from this than about what a "death fatty" looks like.

I'm glad that it's just a snarky size positivity tumblr, I assumed it would be one of those making fun of fat people things :C

(Anonymous) 2012-05-23 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
...I think you're missing the point of rp kink, anon. The idea is for the parties to take on the roles of characters they enjoy, not because they want to look prettier. That's why they call it ROLE play.