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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-05-31 06:22 pm

[ SECRET POST #1976 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1976 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[Ivanhoe]


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02.
[NHL: Chicago Blackhawks]


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03.
[Being Human US]


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04.
[Thor]


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05.
[Glee]


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06.
[azealia banks ft lazy jay]


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07.
[DBSK]


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08.
[Stand By Me]


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09.
[Glee/Game of Thrones]


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10.
[Torchwood]


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11.
[Avengers, Loki]


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12.
[Game of Thrones]


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13.
[Sakamichi no Apollon/Sex Pistols]


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14.
[The Neverending Story]


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15.
[Grey Is]


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16.
[Game of Thrones]


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17.
[Keane]


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18.
[Drive]


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19.
[Dallas]


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20.
[Lisa Eldridge]


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[identity profile] allinye.livejournal.com 2012-05-31 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I fangirl because I like cunning, manipulative, trickster-like villains. I swoon over him in the comics, too (I have a huge girl!crush on Lady Loki). In all the seriousness, I think he's an interesting, complicated character. That's why I like him. But those are my personal feelings. I can't speak for other Loki fans.

And just out of curiosity, OP, if one your parents (hell, nearly everyone in Loki's case) favored your sibling because you were the "different" one, wouldn't you be a little hurt and bitter over it? Plus, there's the whole "Surprise! You're adopted and a member of our enemy race!" issue.
Edited 2012-05-31 23:25 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2012-06-01 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
They didn't really show Thor being favored though. By his friends, maybe, but I thought Thor was pretty good about showing that Odin and Frigga both loved Loki like a son and he was just making up some crackerjack explanation for why he wanted to be evil and such. There was definite jealousy of Thor going on, but I don't think it had much actual basis.

Personal opinion, of course. I just didn't see it.

[identity profile] loracarol.livejournal.com 2012-06-01 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, seconding this. People have claimed that the "only one can be king" thing is being cruel, but that's kind of the truth.

And while Thor's friends can be a little rude, I felt like that was more "Thor, your baby brother's trying to hang out with us again" then actual hatred.

Then you have Odin and Frigga who really do care for them both, even if Odin kind of fails at it. I mean, can anyone who watched the movie honestly say that Frigga played favorites/didn't love Loki?

[identity profile] allinye.livejournal.com 2012-06-01 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
I agree that Odin and Frigga loved him, but I think Odin failed to provide Loki with a sense of security. If your child is that insecure and desperate for your approval, then I think there were flaws in your parenting. It may be due to Odin relating more to Thor than Loki, which could come across as favoritism. Still, whether or not the favoritism existed doesn't matter. Loki genuinely believes he was considered second to Thor by everyone. He wants to be his brother's equal, and that desire is the driving force behind his actions. Loki wants to prove his worth, obtain something he can call his own. So, I have to disagree with your "crackerjack explanation" statement. Loki is not villainous for the sake of being evil.

Also, in the comics, the favoritism is more blatant and usually due to Loki's intellect and preference for magic and cunning rather than brute strength and stereotypical courage. So, I suppose that knowledge affects how I view the movie.

[identity profile] philstar22.livejournal.com 2012-06-01 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Except Odin never favoried Thor. He treated them both completely equally. Thor gets to be king because he's older. But Loki was just as much family as Thor and treated as such. Odin clearly loved them both, and if anything he was harsher on Thor.

[identity profile] allinye.livejournal.com 2012-06-01 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
I mentioned this in a previous comment, but whether or not the favoritism actually existed doesn't matter. Loki believed Odin favored Thor, and that's the important thing. Loki is very insecure, and it's possible that he was projecting his feelings onto others. I'm not saying Loki's emotions are rational, just that they exist and motivate him. And I don't think Odin was a particularly good father to Loki. Definitely not the worse, but he could have done better. That's just my personal opinion, though (I'll admit that I dislike Odin in the movie and even more so in the comics, so I'm probably biased.)

(Anonymous) 2012-06-01 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
He treated them both completely equally.

The movie didn't really support it either way, tbh. It's up to fanon, or to refer to comics, where he didn't.