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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-06-03 03:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #1979 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1979 ⌋

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Notes:

Friending Meme if people want to add each other on DW!

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 115 secrets from Secret Submission Post #283.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[personal profile] lady_tagada 2012-06-03 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. And this makes me want to read the manga. Rocketshipping <3
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[personal profile] mercoledi 2012-06-04 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
It's a fantastic manga for this and all kinds of other reasons. (Palletshipping! Pokéshipping! Brock/Sabrina! Plots that aren't unintentionally ridiculous!) Such a shame it's so difficult to find, though. o_x

(Anonymous) 2012-06-04 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
If you and person above you want to share forever:
http://ebookee.org/Pokemon-Adventures-Manga-Ongoing-_448082.html
It only goes up to vol 31. After that I'm at a blank.

Unfortunately I don't know where to get the Black/White runs. :/
mercoledi: (Cho /shit/...)

Reposting for HTML fail.

[personal profile] mercoledi 2012-06-04 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
Wrong manga, unfortunately. [personal profile] lady_tagada and I were referring to The Electric Tale of Pikachu, not Special. Sorry for not clarifying (although the secret itself is about that particular manga series). Special's not that bad either, but honestly, I prefer Electric Tales for the reasons I've mentioned (plus the art and the fact that I prefer the way it treats my favorite character in the franchise over the way he's treated in Special). The problem's just that it's difficult to find it for sale because it's out of print, and there aren't really any scans or scanlations out there because tons of people in this fandom tend to focus on Special instead of any other manga series. (That's barring the occasional manga that's trending along with it, anyway. Like how people were focused on Special and Magical Pokémon Journey for awhile, then Special and Diamond & Pearl for another while, and now Special and Pokémon ReBURST.)

Not harping on Special, of course. It's just far, far easier to find material for it because of how much the fandom focuses on it. For example, if you're looking for the BW arc, try this place out. It's one of several major manga readers out there, much akin to Mangafox, but unlike Mangafox, it contains essentially a complete collection of the series (or as complete as has been scanlated so far).

In contrast, despite actually having been translated completely, Electric Tale only has the first two chapters (not volumes) available on that site. Other manga series (of which there are plenty) don't fare that much better. Good luck if you're a fan of Zenshou or Golden Boys, for example.

Sorry if that sounded biting. It's just that I think Special is great and all, but it's just frustratingly difficult to find anything but Special.

Re: Reposting for HTML fail.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-09 11:12 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

no problem! For some reason I thought they were the same series under different names??? So I'm doubly excited to find out THERE'S ANOTHER MANGA I CAN READ.

But you seem to know more about the pokemon mangas than I do. My knowledge is spotty at best and Special the only one I can recall off the top of my head because I enjoyed the Ruby version so.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-03 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
James is as gay as fuck though
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[personal profile] chanterofelegies 2012-06-03 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Because he cross-dresses?
Because he says "fabulous"?

Is Jessie a lesbian because she is aggressive and also cross-dresses?

(Anonymous) 2012-06-03 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
This. Annoys the fuck out of me when people call James gay.
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[personal profile] chanterofelegies 2012-06-03 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I just don't like it when they claim it as a fact.

Seeing him as gay? Super! Writing him as gay? Amazing, we need more of that.

But it's not a fact.
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[personal profile] harp 2012-06-04 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not the anon, I know and understand that everyone ships differently and I believe hardcore that nobody has the right to say "you can't ship this" on anything. Now that that's out of the way, I'd like to give my own personal reasons for being anti-Romantic!Jessie/James and 100% Team Gay!James. Viewpoint and experiences to follow are strictly "what I saw around me".

For me, James as a gay man was a very important part of my childhood. I believe that he was the one who started a lot of fans (especially fangirls) ages seven to twelve on the road to really loving gay men and slashing. There was nobody to ship him with, so it wasn’t really lust factor. We just loved him and he happened to be gay.

You have to understand, this was back in 1998 and 1999, before GLBT stuff was on TV in a positive way, especially in the sight of a 6th grader who grew up with literally seven TV channels (2, 4, 5, 7, 9, 11, and 13 which was PBS). This was when sitcoms still played up gay for only big laughs. Will and Grace had just started its first season.

We youngsters were not only underexposed to gays, some of us were hearing about it with a good amount of disdain. Ten year old me knew absolutely nothing about gay men until James came along and prompted me to ignore what some of the adults in my life were saying and actually read about what “homosexuality” was. Before I read this one book (which I had to sneak into my house to read, by the way), I didn’t know that gay men didn’t want to be women. I didn’t know that it was just as simple as one person loving another. Laugh if you want to, but it's easy to forget how much information younger people of today have at their disposal to learn about things that aren’t immediately in their life.

So yeah, ship how you want to ship, I guess, but I dislike that ship on personal nostalgic principle. It takes away a very important part of my life.
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[personal profile] catystorm 2012-06-03 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, wow that picture is a nostalgia hit. Like, a decade-old nostalgia hit.

Good grief I've been on the internet a long time.
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[personal profile] seeingpenguins 2012-06-03 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Hah, I was just about to say that. Haven't seen that picture in FOREVER. Nostalgia ♥
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[personal profile] damn_all_the_odds 2012-06-03 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I have never thought about it... but yes!!! I always thought they were destined to be together. (wow.. it is a long time since I have even thought about those characters!)

(Anonymous) 2012-06-04 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
omggggggggggg nostalgia everywhere thank you for reminding me of this series

it was the first pokemon manga I ever read

it remains the best

I THINK I STILL HAVE THE BOOKS SOMEWHERE BRB FINDING
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[personal profile] fickletastictot 2012-06-05 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, I totally shipped this, even when I thought James was flaming. I just really liked their chemistry~ ;_;