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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-06-03 03:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #1979 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1979 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-06-03 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
James is as gay as fuck though
chanterofelegies: (|Margery/Keisaku| Kiss)

[personal profile] chanterofelegies 2012-06-03 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Because he cross-dresses?
Because he says "fabulous"?

Is Jessie a lesbian because she is aggressive and also cross-dresses?

(Anonymous) 2012-06-03 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
This. Annoys the fuck out of me when people call James gay.
chanterofelegies: (|Margery/Keisaku| Kiss)

[personal profile] chanterofelegies 2012-06-03 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I just don't like it when they claim it as a fact.

Seeing him as gay? Super! Writing him as gay? Amazing, we need more of that.

But it's not a fact.
harp: (Dash and Shy)

[personal profile] harp 2012-06-04 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not the anon, I know and understand that everyone ships differently and I believe hardcore that nobody has the right to say "you can't ship this" on anything. Now that that's out of the way, I'd like to give my own personal reasons for being anti-Romantic!Jessie/James and 100% Team Gay!James. Viewpoint and experiences to follow are strictly "what I saw around me".

For me, James as a gay man was a very important part of my childhood. I believe that he was the one who started a lot of fans (especially fangirls) ages seven to twelve on the road to really loving gay men and slashing. There was nobody to ship him with, so it wasn’t really lust factor. We just loved him and he happened to be gay.

You have to understand, this was back in 1998 and 1999, before GLBT stuff was on TV in a positive way, especially in the sight of a 6th grader who grew up with literally seven TV channels (2, 4, 5, 7, 9, 11, and 13 which was PBS). This was when sitcoms still played up gay for only big laughs. Will and Grace had just started its first season.

We youngsters were not only underexposed to gays, some of us were hearing about it with a good amount of disdain. Ten year old me knew absolutely nothing about gay men until James came along and prompted me to ignore what some of the adults in my life were saying and actually read about what “homosexuality” was. Before I read this one book (which I had to sneak into my house to read, by the way), I didn’t know that gay men didn’t want to be women. I didn’t know that it was just as simple as one person loving another. Laugh if you want to, but it's easy to forget how much information younger people of today have at their disposal to learn about things that aren’t immediately in their life.

So yeah, ship how you want to ship, I guess, but I dislike that ship on personal nostalgic principle. It takes away a very important part of my life.